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Old 01-14-2019, 09:50 AM
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An alternative to the Pak-o-Bird?

I found this bird backpack carrier on Amazon for $100:

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0714KS7LP..._z1kpCb19XJYQH

It looks very similar to the Pak-o-Bird except that the front is clear instead of mesh. This carrier is half the price of the Pak-o-Bird. What do you think?
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Old 01-14-2019, 09:52 AM
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Re: An alternative to the Pak-o-Bird?

Honestly in a Warm environment it looks like a heat deathtrap. In a cold environment it looks like just the thing for safe parrot travels.
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Old 01-14-2019, 10:06 AM
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Re: An alternative to the Pak-o-Bird?

I wouldn't go hiking with it, but I think for transport in and out of aircon places, it'd be a great alternative!

My main concern is the plastic front - in hot weather, that might get a bit too hot or even slightly softer. Not sure if the side mesh is enough for ventilation or just general airflow.
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Old 01-14-2019, 04:16 PM
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Re: An alternative to the Pak-o-Bird?

These sound like useful products for many people.

It's not something Pico and I need however as he travels well on my shoulder.
He crawls into my shirt if cold or when we're in a place I'm not supposed to have a bird, like a restaurant.

When in my shirt he'll stop trying to crawl out of my collar if I prevent it by holding my arn against my chest.
Initially that would get him to struggle, but he quickly learned to just chill and take a nap.
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Old 01-14-2019, 04:29 PM
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Re: An alternative to the Pak-o-Bird?

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These sound like useful products for many people.

It's not something Pico and I need however as he travels well on my shoulder.
He crawls into my shirt if cold or when we're in a place I'm not supposed to have a bird, like a restaurant.

When in my shirt he'll stop trying to crawl out of my collar if I prevent it by holding my arn against my chest.
Initially that would get him to struggle, but he quickly learned to just chill and take a nap.
I am working on harness training Kermit so he can go outside without a carrier, but I don’t think Ducky would be willing to wear a harness. The carrier would be used mainly for Ducky but could also be used for Kermit until he’s harness trained (if he isn’t harness trained by the time the weather warms up) or to take any of the birds to the vet. I have metal travel cages but they’re a bit too heavy to walk around with for extended periods of time. Is Pico harness trained? He sounds adorable
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Old 01-14-2019, 04:46 PM
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Re: An alternative to the Pak-o-Bird?

There is no alternative to a Pak-o-Bird, there are just other carriers It does look like they copied some of the Celltei features but for me not having the stainless steel mesh would be a deal breaker. Pak-o-Bird also has lots of anti-chew features which I'd have to look at this pack to see how it was made.
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Old 01-14-2019, 05:26 PM
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Re: An alternative to the Pak-o-Bird?

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There is no alternative to a Pak-o-Bird, there are just other carriers It does look like they copied some of the Celltei features but for me not having the stainless steel mesh would be a deal breaker. Pak-o-Bird also has lots of anti-chew features which I'd have to look at this pack to see how it was made.
Ducky is not a big chewer and I honestly don’t think she’d be interested at all in chewing the mesh and the sides. One concern I have about the Pak-o-Bird is the amount of light that gets in, and the clear plastic on this carrier seems like it would let more light through and be easier to see out of. I tried one of those soft carriers with small mesh windows and Ducky hated it. She felt constantly trapped inside because it was so dark and enclosed. I’m going to need a bit more convincing before I purchase a Pak-o-Bird. What makes the stainless steel mesh really worth the price?
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Old 01-14-2019, 07:10 PM
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Re: An alternative to the Pak-o-Bird?

So it's not only the mesh, it's the whole package quality including all materials, fit and finish, and manufacturing features that protect all stitching and zippers from beaks.

I did some testing and found that the Pak-o-Bird stayed pretty cool, as in had a slow temperature rise when in the sun, and I attribute that to the mesh which is on the front and sides. That carrier with the plastic is going to bake the bird if the sun hits it directly.

I'm not trying to sell you anything, I'm just saying the PB is a quality product and is more likely to keep your bird from escaping than other cloth carriers. Only you can determine the value of that.
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Old 01-14-2019, 07:59 PM
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Re: An alternative to the Pak-o-Bird?

I didn’t think you were trying to sell me anything, I just wanted to know some of the pros and cons of the Pak-o-Bird before I make the decision to buy it

If there’s that much of a difference in quality I will definitely end up going for the Pak-o-Bird over that carrier with the plastic. I wouldn’t buy that carrier if there was a danger of my bird possibly overheating and baking in the sun. If I ever got it I wouldn’t use it in hot weather or put it in direct sunlight.

I guess it just looked too good to be true. I got excited that there was a similar carrier available for half the price of the Pak-o-Bird, but unfortunately the safety of the bird is compromised. The PoB is the way to go, even if it’s expensive. The safety of our fids should always be put first.
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Re: An alternative to the Pak-o-Bird?

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These sound like useful products for many people.

It's not something Pico and I need however as he travels well on my shoulder.
He crawls into my shirt if cold or when we're in a place I'm not supposed to have a bird, like a restaurant.

When in my shirt he'll stop trying to crawl out of my collar if I prevent it by holding my arn against my chest.
Initially that would get him to struggle, but he quickly learned to just chill and take a nap.
I am working on harness training Kermit so he can go outside without a carrier, but I don’t think Ducky would be willing to wear a harness. The carrier would be used mainly for Ducky but could also be used for Kermit until he’s harness trained (if he isn’t harness trained by the time the weather warms up) or to take any of the birds to the vet. I have metal travel cages but they’re a bit too heavy to walk around with for extended periods of time. Is Pico harness trained? He sounds adorable
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No, Pico (my sweetheart) doesn't use a harness.
He doesn't need one.
He's been an on-my-shoulder-outside-go-everywhere bird for 4 years now.
Never a problem.

I keep his wings clipped enough so he can't fly away, even in an adrenaline-fueled panic.
I leave enough primary wing feather(s) so he can gently land safely.
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