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I am happy with my parent-raised bird, and would recommend one 4 44.44%
I would like to own a parent-raised bird 3 33.33%
I would not consider owning a parent-raised bird 2 22.22%
I am less than happy with my parent-raised bird, and would not recommend one 0 0%
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My journey with my PARENT-raised B&G macaw

Hi everyone

I want to use this thread to show all prospective new bird owners what it is like owning a PARENT-raised bird, first-hand! As a first-time macaw owner myself I hope this is particularly helpful for other inexperienced, first-time parrot owners.

About me: I have no personal experience of large birds to date (though not afraid of new challenges!) and currently own two cats, not unlike many new bird owners.

About my situation: After months of research, I realised the benefits of parent-raising birds vs hand-raising. I wanted a young parent-raised macaw to handle, and a local breeder said he had one reserved as a breeder. I soon fell in love with it and brought him home (on 08/08/12)!!

About my bird: Skye (who turned 1 yrs old yesterday) is a fully parent-raised B&G macaw. He was left with his parents in the aviary until 11 months old! His wings have never been clipped and he has never spent time in a domestic cage before. The breeder did handle him as a baby from time to time so he is used to human interaction.

About my goal: I will be documenting my experiences with Skye for an honest account of owning a Parent-raised large parrot (incl all the bites, as well as hugs!) Remember, all birds (incl hand-reared) bite at some point. If you can't handle what I am going to show... You'll know a parrot is not the right pet for you!

Secondary goals: I will be testing my ability to train/domesticate him into a permanently cageless bird (though I have a stainless steel cage on hand just in case). And, eventually, I hope to dive into the world of free flight! But, one step at a time...

My reasons for choosing a parent-raised parrot:
1. It's best for the bird (i.e. reduces over-production of parrots, reduces preening issues + the bird is more psychologically stable = less aggression/screaming in future)
2. It's best for you (i.e. you receive a high quality pet that looks beautiful with less behavioural problems as an adult)

So, do parent-raised birds really make bad, good or great pets? Do we continue to hand-raise or can we begin demanding for more parent-raised birds in the future? Let's find out the truth ...

QoL
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Re: My journey with my PARENT-raised B&G macaw

Totally interesting to me. I recently started a thread about this topic so I could better understand the process of parent reared chicks. We do have one member who does this. I will be following your information and really would love seeing videos. I do believe parent raised birds with some human intervention gives the bird the best of both worlds. Thanks for joining us.
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Re: My journey with my PARENT-raised B&G macaw

Thanks Spiritbird.

I just wanted to mention (before you see only one macaw in the videos), I've always been an advocate of having two of any social pet, to keep each other company. That is unless you live alone and spend most of your time at home, which is not the case for most of us.

Unfortunately, Parent-raised birds are very hard to come by! There are no others available at the moment, but I am looking to take on a Greenwinged macaw that is currently with its parents at the breeder's and will be available in a few weeks time.

So, why did I not wait for the Greenwinged before bringing Skye home? The reason is that Skye is completely parent-raised with very little human interaction, so the breeder was not confident with me taking home two at once without knowing whether I could handle this one alone!

That said, the breeder agreed to invest a lot more time with the Greenwinged so it will be a CO-parented bird (i.e. almost as tame as a hand-reared once weaned). This will also work great to show the effects of parent-raised birds with human interaction at two extremes.

My apologies for not making this clear. In summary, unless you can become a bird for your bird... Two birds are the only way to go!

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Re: My journey with my PARENT-raised B&G macaw

A very interesting read Look forward to your follow ups!

You mentioned that 2 Birds is the way to go... Would you say this is also the case with Hand Reared Birds?
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Re: My journey with my PARENT-raised B&G macaw

I'll be interested to see how potential bonding issues between the two birds affect the extent and quality of the birds bonding with you. Hopefully you'll all become a trusting, happy group.
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Re: My journey with my PARENT-raised B&G macaw

I LOVE this idea. I have often thought that the birds that are parent raised are a lot more balanced. I have never been a fan of human imprinting on any species. I would rather have a bird that knows that its a bird and isn't confused on trying to be both. I think that it would cut down on a lot of behavioral problems. I don't need a bird that 'needs' me, I would much rather have a bird that is a bird. I personally don't think that its fair to take them from their parents, I hate that a humans needs come before the welfare of the bird and I would love to see this change.
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Re: My journey with my PARENT-raised B&G macaw

I will be following with interest. I have parent raised breeders that are very tame ,more so than hand raised breeders, which have been imprinted with humans and are much more aggressive. I'm not sure exactly what your goals are with raising 2 birds together , could you explain that more ? I think i see where you are coming from but your goals are not the typical pet owners goals,ie; snugglly family pet. I coparent,hand raise and leave babies with parents to be raised as future breeders. Looking forward to your post.
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Re: My journey with my PARENT-raised B&G macaw

How about adding to your poll,,,, I'm happy with my handraised bird and would recommend one. If your looking for a true and honest poll. I think you need to keep an open mind and not "my way is the right way" .I'm sure you could make your research prove your point if that is your agenda (goal).
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Re: My journey with my PARENT-raised B&G macaw

Thank you everyone for your replies so far!

Was just going to shoot my first video but thought I'd post a few replies first because the video may take a while (as I'm not sure how he will react to the camera!)

Quote: Originally Posted by wenz2712 View Post
You mentioned that 2 Birds is the way to go... Would you say this is also the case with Hand Reared Birds?
Hi Wen, yes I believe this should be the case across the board! Bonding issues aside, leave any social being alone for extended periods and it will have an impact on their quality of life.

Like people, however, animals can adapt to living alone, which is why I suggest getting two birds at the beginning to avoid incompatibility/territorial issues later on.

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I'll be interested to see how potential bonding issues between the two birds affect the extent and quality of the birds bonding with you. Hopefully you'll all become a trusting, happy group.
Hi Plax, I am equally as interested in this as you are! I predict I will have to work twice as hard, and may have to persevere for a while longer, to attain the same quality relationship. However, most importantly... I believe it will/can be done! I once said to myself: 'I really want a pretty AND healthy bird', well, you only get what you work for...
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