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Old 02-03-2019, 05:04 PM
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Thank you for all the amazing suggestions! I have been using Clorox wipes on the hard floor surface. Going to stop and use vinegar and water. My son does use hair gel. Clyde loves to snuggle him. Going to go through other things that might irritate him. Also get copy of all the tests and bloodwork heís had done. Iíll call the nearest vet school. He scratches his head/nose a lot also. Iím going to add past tests on here and results when I have them to further pick your brains. Again... THANK YOU!!
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No other birds. 2 Boston terriers, using a heppa filter and humidifier. I do laundry and rinse all clothes twice. No oils, cleaning lady used carpet deodorizer. Will tell her not to. We donít burn any candles. My husband does vaporize cannibas for pain and nausea for his cancer. His room is on the other end of the house. Itís a single story. Have changed the air filters. The house is 6 years old and was mold tested for my husbands illness and came back negative. Ryan takes him in the shower with him. Ryan has made numerous recipes for food. He wonít eat fresh cut foods. He only gets organic. He just the entire cage apart and took it outside and washed with soap and water and threw away all the wood toys. I know newspaper irritates my nose. Ever heard of it bothering a bird? Our carpet has been cleaned a few times due to puppy peeing. He always sounds a little hoarse. Most of the floor in his room is covered with a thin board that is smooth making it easy to clean. We both work at Starbucks. Allergic to coffee? I canít think of anything else right now. Really trying to make sure I give you all the details in case one of you have an idea.



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No other birds. 2 Boston terriers, using a heppa filter and humidifier. I do laundry and rinse all clothes twice. No oils, cleaning lady used carpet deodorizer. Will tell her not to. We don’t burn any candles. My husband does vaporize cannibas for pain and nausea for his cancer. His room is on the other end of the house. It’s a single story. Have changed the air filters. The house is 6 years old and was mold tested for my husbands illness and came back negative. Ryan takes him in the shower with him. Ryan has made numerous recipes for food. He won’t eat fresh cut foods. He only gets organic. He just the entire cage apart and took it outside and washed with soap and water and threw away all the wood toys. I know newspaper irritates my nose. Ever heard of it bothering a bird? Our carpet has been cleaned a few times due to puppy peeing. He always sounds a little hoarse. Most of the floor in his room is covered with a thin board that is smooth making it easy to clean. We both work at Starbucks. Allergic to coffee? I can’t think of anything else right now. Really trying to make sure I give you all the details in case one of you have an idea.



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Barring illness, shampoos/soap/carpet cleaners/cannabis/cleaners= biggest possible issues so far. If your husband can open the window when he does that or step outside...laundry detergent can also be an irritant (use free and clear/unscented if you can). Soaps and shampoos with scents can also cause issues.

Also- another possible major issue--Do you microwave in plastic or use any heating appliances (many of these can contain ptfe/pfoa/teflon--including blow dryers, pans, curling irons, irons, ironing board covers, griddles, rice cookers, humidifiers..the list goes on)..Carpet cleaners are a known irritant as well...as is hair-gel/spray.


Good luck and please keep in close contact with the vet!

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So I have spent hours trying to find a good avian vet to get another opinion for Clyde. He has been going to Dr Jenkins in San Diego. Can anyone give me any recommendations?
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There are websites where you can use to search for CAVs, but if you don't get a response on this thread, you could also make a new one asking specifically about finding a vet CAV in the San Diego area.


Wherever you do go, I would let them know ahead of time about the PDD exposure and your last bird (so that they know to be extra careful with cleaning etc).
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Ok.. good advice. Thank you!


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Hoping you find a good CAV and diagnosis is not life threatening !!



How is the humidity in your house?
Where are you located?

Dry air can irritate our sinus cavities and also affect our feathered friends.
We always run additional humidification during dry winter months.
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Looks as if this might be helpful...


Certified Avian Vets
https://abvp.com/animal-owners/find-an-abvp-specialist/
If none are near you...
Avian Veterinarians
http://www.aav.org/search/custom.asp?id=1803
In my opinion, any of the vets listed here should be better than a regular vet.

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Hoping you find a good CAV and diagnosis is not life threatening !!



How is the humidity in your house?
Where are you located?

Dry air can irritate our sinus cavities and also affect our feathered friends.
We always run additional humidification during dry winter months.

With regard to the statement, "diagnosis is not life threatening !!" I would like to clarify---PDD is considered a terminal illness...but ABV is not always. http://www.multiscope.com/hotspot/articles/pdd.htm
Some ABV strains progress to PDD and there are birds that can be carriers, but that doesn't mean that other birds will have the same asymptomatic reaction once infected (even when exposed to exactly the same strain). That is why it is so important to be cautious, as you know your bird may be carrying the virus. Even an asymptomatic bird can become symptomatic if stressed, but it just depends. It is all very confusing and complicated...Not all exposed birds contract it ( ABV or PDD)..and with PDD, sometimes incubation periods can last 8 years.

I am not saying that to stress anyone out or to focus on the negative. A bird could test positive for ABV and live a normal life (depending on the situation), while another would not. While some treatments are available for comfort etc, such as NSADIs (which may, in some cases, extend life expectancy compared to an untreated bird with PDD), there isn't a cure for this progressive illness.
Here is some more good information on this confusing topic: https://www.2ndchance.info/MacawWastingSyndr.htm

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Thatís a great article. Thank you! Taking Clyde to another avian vet tomorrow.


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