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I also understand that If I splint the chicks, the mother may reject and stop feeding them. I know what aspiration is and I'm really HOPING I don't have to hand feed them but am prepared to do so. As stated, this is the hens first clutch...she seems very attached to them, but I need help with the splinting process...thanks...
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Re: Splayed legs in parakeet hatchlings...

Is there a specific way to hold a hatchling while applying a splint? So as to make it comfortable? Should I avoid specific area's on it's body? I've tried to splint them twice now and they're not stable enough in my or my mothers hand to get the splint on. Mama bird is still feeding both of them but I'm worried if I keep messing with them the parents will be upset.

I've created a number of splints:
Some out of small/medium sized hair ties with a 1/2 in straw separator.
Some out of cut make-up sponges with holes about 1in apart
And I've cut non-adhesive sports wrap tape (we're fresh out of medical tape) about 1/2in wide (longer stripes/double ply) in the event that the above 2 don't work and I have to tape them. I'll use small pieces of duct tape to secure the sports wrap...
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Re: Splayed legs in parakeet hatchlings...

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Re: Splayed legs in parakeet hatchlings...

The idea of moving the eggs is to get the mother to not sit on them... aka abandon. You would need to remove everything that is considered a nest or nesting material though...

Handling the chicks wont necessarily cause the hen to abandon them. It's kind of an old wives tale. Yes, it can happen, but not frequently.



The sooner the legs are splinted, the faster it can potentially be corrected, but if you wait too long, they could be stuck like this for the rest of their lives.




Since humans have grown accustomed to the idea that "blue = boy" and "pink = female", this has lead to a lot of confusion when it comes to sexing budgies, because pink ceres in an adult budgie means male, and females can have blue ceres, too! Not the same blue as a male, but still blue enough to confuse people!



Do you have a vet near you that can help guide you and give you advice?
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Re: Splayed legs in parakeet hatchlings...

The "EXTRA STUFF" that I told you that you needed, like BABY BIRD FORMULA, HAND-FEEDING SYRINGE, BROODER, THERMOMETERS, ETC. IS NOT "EXTRA", IT'S MINIMAL!!!

I don't care how many years that you've owned birds, that has nothing to do with allowing them to breed RESPONSIBLY, nor does working in a pet shop. Nothing at all. AND JUST BECAUSE YOU HAVE HAD CLUTCHES BE PARENT RAISED BEFORE WITHOUT ANY ISSUES DOESN'T MEAN YOU WON'T THE NEXT TIME, OR THIS TIME FOR THAT MATTER...

Do you actually think it's okay that you are completely unprepared to take-over feeding these babies right now? You called what I listed "EXTRA STUFF", but you certainly won't think so if your parents just suddenly stop feeding them. You keep saying they are 16 and 18 days old, so you have a long way to go before they are weaned...What if you have to feed them suddenly? Then you'll go buy the "EXTRA STUFF" I LISTED I suppose...

Don't attack me when I'm being the responsible breeder, AS I'M THE ONE WITH OVER 20 YEARS OF BIRD BREEDING EXPERIENCE, and I cannot tell you how many times I have had to feed day-old babies and 20 day old babies because the parents just suddenly stopped or kicked them out of the nest...

AND YES, THE HARM IN YOU SPLINTING THAT BABY'S LEGS YOURSELF IS THAT YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU ARE DOING, AND IF IT'S DONE INCORRECTLY, BASED ON A YOUTUBE VIDEO, HE'S GOING TO BE PERMANENTLY DISABLED.

Spend $100 and please take the baby to an Avian Vet and have it's legs splinted properly, it should have been done on day 1...

And by the way, touching the "nest" or disturbing the parents will not cause them to stop feeding, or any issues at all.
I hope every single thing goes perfectly for you without any issues as you've already said it definitely will....
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Re: Splayed legs in parakeet hatchlings...

I have to completely agree with EllenD on this.

The babies are facing permanent disability and you do not seem to think you are doing anything wrong here.

Please reconsider letting your birds breed. The fact that you are letting them breed, with babies that have need of medical assistance and you're trying to fix them with a youtube video, without knowledge of how to intervene when an emergency occurs, that is irresponsible breeding and is highly frowned upon here.

By the way, what I meant before about ages was, how old is your breeding pair? Under a year old will be too young to breed so I was just hoping they are over that age.
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Re: Splayed legs in parakeet hatchlings...

Look lady, I came here for advice. I don't need to you tell me how irresponsible I am. You're a breeder? oh cool, I'm not, was never trying to be, this was an accident. My point was that I'm not stupid in caring for my birds like you assumed I was. Like, this is supposed to be a community page right? So how come you JUMP on me when I came here for advice? The birds have an appt for wed. but thats tomorrow. So now this is the second day I've known about it and had to just let it go.

I've read a number of pages, watched a number of video's and now I'm here looking for experiential advice on the procedure, Sorry I'm trying to educate myself to help in the matter? and lol, again, I'm a bird keeper, not a breeder, I didn't do this on purpose, stop telling me not to let my birds breed again, I didn't encourage or LET them do anything, I didn't even realize the male was a male, thought it was a female (albino), this was an accident. I know I'll have to separate parents and children, might as well separate sexes when appropriate. did I not already say that? pretty sure i did.
Oh, P.S, you attacked me first, go read your other post, put yourself in my shoes, consider your wording and use of CAPS next time.

They're over a year, about 2 yrs actually....and uhm, I stated I would take them to the vet, I've been a nervous wreck since I realized something was wrong, how could you say I seem like I don't care? I understand the possibilities but I'm trying to help, some individuals have recommended applying a splint but given little advice on how to do so. uhm irresponsible breeding?!? irresponsible would be not doing anything for them at all, I've already stated I made a mistake. Sorry I didn't realize this was a forum for parrot breeders and breeders only.

uhm, I came here for advice and got nothing but up-tight bird breeders flaming me for trying to help. I'm taking them to a vet on Wednesday but I'm not returning to this forum after this post. you're welcome.

Thanks for the 'advice'.
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Re: Splayed legs in parakeet hatchlings...

EllenD respectfully I successfully splinted one of my baby tiels once and she healed perfectly. I too was an accidental breeder and have since remedied the situation.

There is no need to shout at the op. She is asking for help.
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Re: Splayed legs in parakeet hatchlings...

Hey Grace, you PM'D me and I tried to reply to you earlier on here because I'm too new to respond to PM's.

Anyway, you were the only one who was helpful to me on this forum. And for that I thank you very much.

However, because I'm unaware of how to go about splinting and I don't want to harm them further, I think I'm just going to wait until I can get to the vet. I successfully splinted the less-bad-off chick, but as soon as I put her down in her cage she kicked it off. I think the vet is my best bet.

On the bright side, I made these little pillows out of papertowel and cotton balls last night and put them in the cage around the edges, the babies are using them to push against and they're using their knee joints on the bad feet to do so. So as long as they stay by the makeshift pillows, their legs aren't extended straight out to the side and their using their joints. .

I'm most worried about the leg bones/joints forming in a locked position sooner than I can get them to the vet, so to see them using their knee joints and bad legs is a good sign I think...
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Re: Splayed legs in parakeet hatchlings...

Quote: Originally Posted by Budgiegirl38 View Post
Hey Grace, you PM'D me and I tried to reply to you earlier on here because I'm too new to respond to PM's.

Anyway, you were the only one who was helpful to me on this forum. And for that I thank you very much.

However, because I'm unaware of how to go about splinting and I don't want to harm them further, I think I'm just going to wait until I can get to the vet. I successfully splinted the less-bad-off chick, but as soon as I put her down in her cage she kicked it off. I think the vet is my best bet.

On the bright side, I made these little pillows out of papertowel and cotton balls last night and put them in the cage around the edges, the babies are using them to push against and they're using their knee joints on the bad feet to do so. So as long as they stay by the makeshift pillows, their legs aren't extended straight out to the side and their using their joints. .

I'm most worried about the leg bones/joints forming in a locked position sooner than I can get them to the vet, so to see them using their knee joints and bad legs is a good sign I think...
First and foremost, welcome to the forums! We exist for the benefit of our birds and strive to make interacting an enjoyable experience!

Life happens, and unforeseen events occur. The body of knowledge here is vast, yet we all have value and something to contribute. Advice delivered rudely is problematic regardless of good intent.

I concur with the ultimate decision to seek vet care, preferable a certified avian practice.

New members cannot use the PM system until 20 posts are realized. However, any moderator can pass messages between parties until the limit is reached, or outside communication is established. Thanks, Grace, for reaching out!!
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