Not again. I'm super stressed.

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Oh gosh I'm so glad he's doing better, good luck and I wish him a speedy recovery.
 

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A relief to hear of an improvement; you must be so exhausted between your sick fid and sick kid. We are all pulling for you!


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Just the thought of what you're going through gives me the chill! Come on little Leo.. you can do it!!!!
 
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He's home and in his little hospital set up. I've given him a several bowls of all kinds of fruits, veggies, and dry stuff. He went straight for the green beans, which are his favorites. He looks sooooooooo much better. I'm supposed to give him formula in the morning as insurance, and if he eats during the day it's good, and if he doesn't, then give him formula at night. Dr. J. wants me to call daily for the next couple of days to keep him updated.



 

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Don't be afraid to offer seeds as well; all those calories that usually work against a bird are exactly the sort of thing that could give him the boost he needs.


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There are seeds and nuts in the dry foods bowl that's just out of the picture. He's got a little of everything there. He's even got forbidden treats like goldfish and peanut butter cookies.
 

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He looks GOOD!
 

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Goldfish?? The crackers, I hope. Good to hear Leo is home and doing better.
 
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Goldfish?? The crackers, I hope. Good to hear Leo is home and doing better.

*throws rotten tomatoes at wrench*

Yes the crackers, silly!

He's nibbling here and there on pretty much everything. It' still not enough to sustain himself, but it's probably about half of the calories he needs, which is far better than nothing. Hopefully tomorrow will be even better.
 

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Heavens! I'm really sorry to read that you've been having such a tough time of it lately. Statistically, after so many negatives you've got to be due some positives soon!

Leo is lucky to have you as his mom :)
 

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So happy Leo is home and recuperating. His hospital set-up is first class, kudos to the chef! I see Leo is studying the sports section, my least favorite part of the paper! Interior pages tend to be b&W so less staining from the ink!

Any diagnosis at this point??
 
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There's no real solid diagnosis. That's one of the things Dr. J. is so very frustrated about. He clearly has an infection of some sort, but he's been unable to figure out exactly where. It's not respiratory, it's not digestive, he doesn't appear to have any skin or bone issues. It's just weird. He's on Baytril injections twice a day now, and that one seems to be making a difference where the first antibiotic really did nothing.

He's nibbling a little bit more energetically this morning than he did yesterday, though still not nearly enough to sustain himself, so he's still getting formula. We added a heat lamp to his little set up and that's made a huge difference in his comfort. He's not nearly as poofed up with the heat lamp warming up his little area. He's definitely showing small signs of recovery, so I'm happy.
 

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Despite huge strides in avian medicine and extraordinary practitioners such as Dr. J, there is still so much to be discovered. At least you are seeing progress, and it may take a variety of antibiotics before achieving success against the microbe world.
 

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Well he looks pretty good, his feathers look good and the extra heat is a very good idea. Sometimes it takes them an extremely long time to feel good, the only creatures I know of that take longer to fully recover are reptiles. My bearded dragon got a respiratory infection last year and it took him 4 months after finishing the antibiotics for him to eat the same amount as he did prior to getting sick. My certified herp vet told me that reptiles are the slowest animals to recover from illness, followed by birds. So there ya go.

The extra heat and the high calorie baby formula are both great ideas and hopefully the more food and nourishment he takes in, the more he'll want. Remember he's been very sedentary recently compared to how he usually is, so that in itself will slow down his eating, and when combined with the infection making him feel crappy has his appetite down.

Slow progress is still progress.

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We lost a lovely Amazon to a persistent infection, so I got to learn more about the subject than I would have preferred. At one time, the vet explained that his infection was located in the sinus areas near the brain, and was dissolving the bone, and that when the infection reached the brain that would be the end. And it was, the end came quickly when it came. But the vet told me he had been treating another parrot for the same infection, except that infection was localized at one of the wings, and didn't travel around. Periodic treatment of some kind kept it at bay. As I understood it, parrots have such a complex internal arrangement of hollow bones and air sacs, and fluids don't necessarily circulate through the tissues as thoroughly as in humans. So maybe that other bird's infection was located inside a wing bone? He said the antibiotics to root such a hidden infection out were riskier than managing it where it was.

One thing that did help our little guy was regular nebulizer treatments. We had a human nebulizer and a plexiglass box that fit over the perch. Set birdie in there and nebulizer some medicine, various things at various times. They breathe the medicine in deeply that way and it has a chance to circulate through some of those interior spaces, maybe. I hope your guy is on the mend and the baytril will knock the infection out for good. He sure does look at home there with that mountain of food!
 
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He sure does look at home there with that mountain of food!

Well, I wanted to make sure that no matter what he felt like eating, there was something suitable available! MrC made fun of me for quite a bit over the food mountain. But I'd rather throw away food and make sure he's got plenty available than have him not eat because whatever might be appealing wasn't there.

And that's a good point about hollow bones and infections, and fluids. I'm sorry about your amazon. I never knew that's how he died. Poor little green guy. :(
 
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I'm just gonna hang out up here and clean my beak in your hair. Serves you right for that yucky formula stuff.

 
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No real change this morning. It would be nice if he showed more signs of recovery, but at least he's not getting worse. Also, recovery has been slow this whole time, so I wasn't expecting anything dramatic. I suppose he is a little bit more alert than he was yesterday. He's making some noise, but not a lot. My house is *really* quiet these days. I think we know who the instigator is now! He's perching on his bowls pretty much all the time now, instead of standing on the floor of his bin most of the time and only perching for a little bit. Little bit by little bit, I suppose.
 

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