COVID-19 Virus

[Laurasea]

Re: Wuhan virus

This site appears to be accurate! Real time tracking!
https://ncov2019.live/data

Thanks! That's great! Except it's 153/195 countries effected otgeteiseooks good!

For those who say this will go away with warm weather. Florida was 90 yesterday were I live, we climbed to 155 cases, a dozen around me. So I don't think warm weather is going to be changing the course of this, at least this year.

Also my tv shows, now have people on the cast ir crew positive, we city council members positive, well know celebrities positive, sports stats positive. This indicates wide spread numbers. When we saw this in other countries we said they were having a wide spread outbreak.

So please do your social distancing, limit going out. Help break the chain of transmission.

 

[bug_n_flock]

Re: Wuhan virus

First death in my state overnight. They had been warning for a few days that they did not expect him to make it. He was 66, the same age as my mom.

 

[bug_n_flock]

Re: Wuhan virus

They just closed restaraunts and bars to in person customers. Drive thru and delivery still operating. Watching the 2x daily press conference from our governer.

 

[SailBoat]

Re: Wuhan virus

I emailed my brother earlier to see if he's had to cancel flights, as he is a pilot and makes many chartered flights flying lawyers and other business people all over the country. His name is Dave, so please keep him in your prayers. I'm very concerned about him, not only for his safety but also because he is 66. If he got infected will the hospital treat a young person but tell Dave "well, we'll get to you when we're not so busy."

I don't know much about corporate aircraft, but commercial airliners have robust air filtration systems; the touch surfaces are problematic. We will likely see a draw down of domestic air traffic this coming week. Unsure if limited to specific airports or something more general.

Air quality on Business Jets depends highly on what generation of aircraft one is asking about. Current generation (North American Use, build approval 2008 and newer, mid-size and larger) are designed to fully exchange air every 3 minutes minimum and their cabin air use like air filtration systems as Scott spoke to above.

The vast majority of Time Share Aircraft Organizations went to full aircraft cabin cleaning between contracted flight leg(s) with flight staff surface cleaning and lab cleaning as part of flight segment when clients exit the aircraft and prior to their return. This includes privately owned aircraft, which contract with a Time Share Group to service /support their aircraft.

 

[Laurasea]

Re: Wuhan virus

Please understand that anyone can develop severe symptoms, yes severe symptoms are harder on at risk groups. But anyone from 20 up can be in the hospital with pneumonia. Social distance is important for all.

" Jérôme Salomon, a top official at the French health ministry, said the situation was “deteriorating very quickly.” He told France Inter radio on Monday that many people did not seem to be taking calls for social distancing seriously, and he tried to dispel the notion that the virus seriously threatens only the elderly. There are 300 to 400 people in intensive care in France, he said, and roughly half of them are under age 65.
Reiterating his call to test anyone suspected of having the coronavirus, the WHO leader said, "This is a serious disease. Although the evidence we have suggests that those over 60 are at highest risk, young people, including children, have died."

 

[Inger]

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They just closed restaurants and bars to in person customers. Drive thru and delivery still operating. Watching the 2x daily press conference from our governor.

Washington State too. He'd originally closed schools in 3 counties until April 24 and then expanded that to the entire state; now it's all bars, restaurants, entertainment and recreational facilities. Drive-through and take-out are still allowed.

 

[SailBoat]

Re: Wuhan virus

It appears that New York State and its two sharing states, which defines New York City region have this morning defined what most States will likely follow quickly.

Michigan seems to be closely following, for the most part, what New York State is doing. That said, Michigan has been a bit ahead of New York in some regards as Michigan shutdown schools 'announcement' was last Thursday...

It is important to remember that the United States is in fact a Republic and thereby each State has Rights that the federal government cannot supersede. Example: The United States Armed Forces cannot be deployed within a State without very specific approval of that State and that includes the Army Engineering Group, which New York Governor requested start building Hospitals and alike...

 

[ctwo]

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We are expecting to hear shelter in place orders soon, effective midnight through April 7th.. 6.7M people affected in my and surrounding counties.

 

[SailBoat]

Re: Wuhan virus

We are expecting to hear shelter in place orders soon, effective midnight through April 7th.. 6.7M people affected in my and surrounding counties.

Great information, but it would be very helpful to know where a 'shelter in place' order may so be set in place!

 

[Laurasea]

Re: Wuhan virus

We shut schools, limit 50 people at establishments. Interviews spring breakers, they say they out of school and you can't tell them what to do, a quote I watched the guy say it, and about a 100 other college kids laughing say they don't care!!!!!!!!! OMG!

 

[texsize]

Re: Wuhan virus

We shut schools, limit 50 people at establishments. Interviews spring breakers, they say they out of school and you can't tell them what to do, a quote I watched the guy say it, and about a 100 other college kids laughing say they don't care!!!!!!!!! OMG!

Education is wasted on the young.:16:

 

[ctwo]

Re: Wuhan virus

We are expecting to hear shelter in place orders soon, effective midnight through April 7th.. 6.7M people affected in my and surrounding counties.

Great information, but it would be very helpful to know where a 'shelter in place' order may so be set in place!

SF bay area but I'm sure the alphabet channels will have a headline, for those in the US.

And what good is it without a true global response?

 

[Laurasea]

Re: Wuhan virus

I will link a very detailed ( boring science stuff to some) look at SARS-COV-2 ( COVID-19)

But I wanted to show there are some Avian coronavirus, these are not in the same sub family of the current Coronavirus ( it's a betacov) . And no further mention of them is made in the link. Just sharing for the FYI factor.

" Genomic characterization has shown that probably bats and rodents are the gene sources of alphaCoVs and betaCoVs. On the contrary, avian species seem to represent the gene sources of deltaCoVs and gammaCoVs. "
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK554776/

Further info on some avain Coronavirus with potential to jump species line. At the time from predator birds to prey species.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/29769348/?i=3&from=/30584600/related

Also CoV novel viruses found in Amazon parrots in Brazil, and warn of potential new emergence. As the world comes closer to all our wild creatures, new viruses have the potential to jump species.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/26250156/?i=4&from=/29769348/related
" Considering the risk of inter-species host switching and further adaptation to new hosts, detection in bird species of CoVs closely related to mammal CoVs should warn for the potential emergence of new threatening viruses. "

 

[SailBoat]

Re: Wuhan virus

We are expecting to hear shelter in place orders soon, effective midnight through April 7th.. 6.7M people affected in my and surrounding counties.

Great information, but it would be very helpful to know where a 'shelter in place' order may soon be set in place!

SF bay area but I'm sure the alphabet channels will have a headline, for those in the US.

And what good is it without a true global response?

Went looking for it and found the headline in a San Fran News Paper. Just starting to see limited coverage at the National level.

 

[bug_n_flock]

Re: Wuhan virus

Keeneland Spring Meet cancelled, Kentuckey Derby postponed until September or later.

 

[Laurasea]

Re: Wuhan virus

This needs to re read. As I'm hearing so many of my friends not understanding why we have to take extreme measures!
Doctor on the front line in Italy

“I will therefore try to convey to people far from our reality what we are living in Bergamo in these days of Covid-19 pandemic. I understand the need not to create panic, but when the message of the dangerousness of what is happening does not reach people I shudder,” he said.
The boards with the names of the patients, of different colors depending on the operating unit, are now all red and instead of surgery you see the diagnosis, which is always the damned same: bilateral interstitial pneumonia.”

The doctor urged people not to describe COVID-19 as a bad case of the flu.

Macchini noted that some of his colleagues have become infected themselves and then infected their relatives who “are already struggling between life and death.”

“So be patient, you can’t go to the theater, museums or the gym. Try to have pity on the myriad of old people you could exterminate,” he said.

https://nypost.com/2020/03/10/italia...irus-thoughts/

Also from America ( didn't save source sorry , saved earlier in thresd)

About 80% of people who contract this new coronavirus will feel sick, but ultimately be just fine. It’s the other 20% who get really, really sick that worry so many of us in the infectious diseases field. A lot of these critically ill patients wind up needing to be hospitalized for their pneumonia-like illnesses. They typically require critical care and ventilation – special machines that help them breathe. And some need to stay on ventilators for weeks at a time. It’s that portion of patients that’s most concerning. Depending how many cases develop here in the U.S., providing that level of care for that many people over a number of weeks runs the risk of overwhelming the nation’s health care system pretty quickly. "

The COVID-19 , is now called
SARS-CoV-2 (severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2). Also puts 20% in the hospital with pneumoia. Partly because of the viruses affinity for the cilia structures in the lung. It uses those cells to reproduce destroying those cells in that process. Filling the lungs with cellular debris. Decreasing the lungs ability to process oxygen. Leaving holes in the lungs, in what maybe permanent damage. Then comes the body's immune response to the invader. This happens at about day 9 after you first have just mild symptoms. This immune response from the body can be massive in some people causing more damage to the lungs, then liver and kidneys. As the body says we must kill this new threat and anything related to the threat collateral damage be d******... ( Will cite https://api.nationalgeographic.com/d...es-to-the-body

It will take weeks for the death toll to catch up in final outcomes.

A woman in her 60s died Monday morning, March 9, from COVID-19 at El Camino Hospital in Mountain View, the first fatality due to the new coronavirus to occur in Santa Clara County.

She had been hospitalized for several weeks, according to a statement from the Santa Clara County Public Health Department.https://mv

 

[Scott]

Re: Wuhan virus

Sobering, Laura. I continue to see SM posts and receive emails suggesting this is just not very deadly. Makes me wanna tear my hair out in disgust.

 

[LaManuka]

Re: Wuhan virus

Yippee!! FINALLY some good news! Hubby’s convention he was going to in Dallas has been cancelled, in a win for common sense! I REALLY didn’t want him to go because I’d have been worried out of my mind the whole time what with his heart condition and all.

The biggest winner out of this is Lilly Pilly, the money that won’t be spent on plane tickets will now be redirected into a bigger cage for her HRH will be getting a huge shiny palace as befits her high-octane sugar-induced activity levels. PLUS she gets her dadda and me answering her every demand, what birdie could ask for more?!

(Cripes if I didn’t know better I’d say she and those 19 sneaky Corvids were colluding on this thing the whole time!!)

 

[wrench13]

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LOL, Corvid 19 ! I was thinking about that the other day, expecting some less informed people to go out and start shooting crows and ravens ( except that a person who knows what a corvid is would likely be smarter than that).

 

[Flboy]

Re: Wuhan virus

The wife is the head coach of a large gymnasts training center. She called the owner yesterday to say she wasn’t coming in, she is in the high risk category and has scared lungs from multiple bouts of pneumonia! Both bacterial and viral! The management team had a fit! Saying there was proof that the kids are safe!?!!
Fortunately, they were open to a quick education, the entire facility is now closed!