Hansday i think they call them, without starting the hybrid debate, I do think they are lovely birds without conflicting urges/habits who do rather well like most macaw hybrids, unlike some lovebird hybrids. Though I wouldn't deliberately breed one, I do like them and would certiantly adopt one if I had the chance.
I spoke with him about getting a Hahns and as soon as I said Macaw, he told me to move out. I had to carefully explain the size ration of a Hahns to Con and he asked if he could sleep on it. The next day, he wanted to read about them then he said he'd rather I'd get a conure but it was my decision. I called up my local breeder and asked if he had any or knew where to get any. He said he'd have to get one shipped in for me but if I was still interested in a Sun Conure, he could get me a Red Factor Sun baby for $450.
He explained that he was trying to get a RF pair and that the money I gave him for the baby would be used to help buy the parents and he'd wean the baby for me and give me a recipt and all that. I think its a good deal and I've always wanted a RF Sun. I can get the Hahns when I'm in my own place that way I don't have to worry about my dad being afraid of the Macaw.
I really liked those pictures of the macaw/conure hybrid. The Nanday one was beautiful! I wonder how much one of those would go for? But thanks you guys for letting me bounce my ideas and stuff off you!
So if I'm reading this right you will be paying for a baby before he even has a pair to breed it?
That's how I read it too. Just be aware here that it could take months for him to find suitable/compatible RF as their are certain breeding conditions and genetics that must be ensured to avoid breeding the hypothetical 'double reds' which are lethal. After actually getting the right pair, most probably a RF and a normal if he knows what he is doing, which is the safest breeding pair to avoid lethals, they would actually need to bond and breed (and maybe even mature to be old enough to do so first). Then, no RF babies can even be guaranteed in each clutch, as while it would be a 50% chance of each chick being RF, that doesn't mean heir will necessary be one in the first clutch.
So assuming he can source a pair, they are old enough, they actually bond and breed AND a RF is produced in the clutch, you will be waiting awhile, more so if their is a hiccup along the way
RF is dominant accumulative and seems to be lethal in the double form (either due to the RF gene itself OR a gene associated with that separates with it that is lethal in the double form). As it is cumulative, some RF are barley red (commonly called tangerine) and others vibrant and it takes special line breeding to actually get decent RFs without producing lethal chicks. So although he may source a RF their is no guarantee on quality, or guarantee on the quality of the chicks. Also due to inbreeding in many RF lines they can be genetically less healthy/more prone to disease so quality birds with strong genes from reputable breeders who out cross regularly need to be chosen.
The usual (And safe!) cross is...
R r -->
RF parent
r Rr rr
r Rr rr
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v
Normal parent
Which results in
50% RF offspring chance
50% normal chance
Any chick with one R will be RF. Any with two R lethal (requires both parents to have RF genes to occur), and with none normal
This means what while they have the potential to produce RF chicks it's not going to happen 100% of the time, so you might (worst case scenario) actually have to wait a clutch or two as they might all be normal! That said, on the other side, it's 50/50 so you may end up with more RF babies then you can handle! Usually its roughly a 50/50 mix of them in each clutch of course though
But I also need to say that by RF pair I sincerely hope he does not mean a breeding pair or two red birds, as he is going to produce lethal chicks. It's a very complex mutation to breed correctly. If you want RF, I am not saying this guy is bad, but I would personally be going to an experienced RF or sun breeder to ensure genetic health/no problems from the previous inbreeding taken to establish the mutation, and that they are being bred ethically to avoid lethal chicks. Just food for thought, I LOVE RF but they require a bit of thought as to where you get them to ensure long term health and that lethal chicks are not being bred deliberate to get lots of RF in the surviving siblings. 
cheap to feed comparatively! I could gush about GCC all day. They are great - everyone needs one 
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