Pros and cons of Craigslist rehome

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What has been your experience with Craigslist rehomed birds? Overall, what are the pros and cons of adopting a bird on CL?

I would like to adopt my second bird as a rehome so I can get a bird close to age of my nanday. I am a bit turned off by people trying to make money off unwanted pets and pretending it is to sure the birds go to a go home. I feel really bad for a sun conure I might go meet this weekend because she is in a budgie cage... as a bird lover am I obligated to pay $200 to save a sweet bird from a family that got bored with her after 6 months.

I have also noticed the same birds on CL for a few weeks. I have been emailing owners and they say nobody has shown up to see the birds. My mom says that they are probably lying and that their birds have something wrong with then. I tend to be more trusting and believe people are just flakes.:grey:

What has been your experience?
 
Uugghh! Im so with you on the trusting people thing, I tend to trust before I should. Anyway, I just adopted my lil sunshine off CL. I started off texting then talking to this gal to feel her out. I had looked at quite a few ads until this one just seemed right. If the ads have been on for a while ask if they will take less $ since they havent found a new home yet. Also I totally agree with going to 'meet' the bird first. If they truly care they will want to meet you and have you meet the bird first. Yeah the bird wont know you and may be a little weird with you around but you can get a good feel on how it will be, and see how they are with it, that will give you a good indication on how things will go in the future! Good luck to you!
 
Thank you! Unfortunately most birds are a few hours away which makes it hard to visit ahead of adoption.

Any thoughts on the impulse to buy a rehomed bird from a family that isn't treating the bird well? I don't want to encourage people to throw out pets but don't want to leave a bird in a bad situation either!
 
I only have good things to say about my craigslist rehome... only had him since Wed night and he came from a very good home but he's amazing.

I'd want to take a bird out of a bad situation if I met him too. You could always try to see if they would take less money
 
I agree, I have had good experiences with Craigslist. But I follow certain rules before I venture out to meet a pet from Craiglist

1. I will not bother with even going to see a pet that SELLER posts a higher than average fee that I think should be asked.

2. I NEVER go into it thinking this poor bird needs to be rescued. If it's that bad, I will notify the authorities and let them handle it.

3. I will always ask folks who claim their animal is super friendly and doesn't bite if the owner can handle the bird in front of me and if they can demonstrate how friendly their bird is. If they respond well, it hasn't been handled in a while, (some will be honest about this and some won't) I will shy away because this is a BIG RED FLAG that the bird has been cage bound.

Now, once I have decided to go and see the animal, I first check out their current environment, is it clean, next, how does the animal act, if it acts friendly and energetic. If it acts like it doesn't want to be messed with or like it just doesn't seem to feel good or lifeless, I shy away. Look at the tail vent and nostrils if they aren't clean, SHY AWAY.

NEVER< NEVER< NEVER go into a situation with the feeling that you are obligated to recue this poor bird before you even get there. People especially bird flippers prey on this type of person. They will prey on your gulability by putting a bird in a small cage with no toys and even put plain bird seed in the food dish and make sure the cage is scruffy looking. When you see this kind of thing and they are wanting almost retail price for the bird, SHY AWAY.

Good luck,
Mike
 
My advice is dont believe a word the people from CL tell you. They will tell all sorts of lies to get top dollar for a bird they no longer want, or worse that is sick. Evaluate the bird for yourself when you visit it. Just like mtdoramike said, dont fall victim to feeling sad for the birds living conditions. You are not responsible for that, the owner is. Many people get birds and lie (or sugar coat) to their spouses or roommates about how loud the bird can be, or how messy or needy a bird can be. That is the birds you find on CL for rehoming most of the time.
 
I got my Ekkie off of craigslist, i think its a good idea, i personally prefer older birds (Rome was 16 when we got her, Roc was only 4). I wont pay for a rehome though. I will pay an adoption fee from a reputable rescue but i wont ever pay for a rehome. Most of the time the bird has sort of issue that needs to be addressed, and usually the birds never been to the vet before. I always do full work ups when getting a new fid. Both of my fids were free and ive turned down two birds in the laat month or so. I figure, for instance my Ekkie, i get them, spend 300-400 on a full work and toys, if someones asking 500 then you've just spent enough to buy a baby. I might consider paying a small fee if the bird has had a full work up done by the previous home within the last week but i have yet to come across one that has had that done. I think its a good idea as long as you are prepared to fix whatever may be going on but i would think most of the birds are somewhat healthy.
 
I have bought 2 birds from craigs list . both had been hand fed and hand tamed and each one was 5 mo old when I bought them One was an African redbellied parrot that she thought was a male but she did not know any more than I did and she is female. I named her Tiki and she is delightful, She did come with a cage which was very clean but inadequate in my opinion, so we bought her a new cage and used that cage to get our next bird who was a 5 month old hand fed hand tamed yellow sided green cheek conure who I named Chiquita, I just bought her a bigger cage at the bird fair . I will use that fist cage as a travel cage. Both birds seem healthy and we are very happy with both birds:D
 
I own horses, and have owned for 11 years. The horse buying and selling business is a dirty world full of lies. I compare buying a bird off Craigslist similar to buying a horse. People in the horse business will lie to your face, leave out very important details and even drug the horse prior to you coming to ride it. My first horse was a rescue mare advertised to be "child safe" and "bombproof". I rode the horse, bought her and was bucked off 6 times the first time I rode her at my house.

So, as birds can develop so many behavioral problems just like horses can, I go into every situation on craigslisting assuming everything has been sugarcoated. The birds are being rehomed for a reason, and it is safe to assume its a bad one(other then deployment, conflict with another pet, allergies, death of the owner, and such). I have a hard time trusting anyone and prefer to be proved wrong rather than fooled. Now I know there are those hidden treasure birds, and I browse CL daily hoping to find one. :) If you found your bird on CL then thats awesome and I'm glad you gave a deserving bird a good life. I know there are decent people out there.
 
I think most important is go with your gut! If it feels right, seems right, and looks right, DO it. I agree with the fact that you have to go with an open mind and BE PREPARED to WAlk AWAY! I think as long as you have that in your mind then things will turn out good. With sunshine I went with my $ for the 're-home' fee but told the gal I was coming to meet her and see how we got along (the bird) I never made it sound like I was actually going to buy the bird that day (which I did) that way there were no expectations. I have got really lucky when it comes to Craigslist and my pets. I have a pure bred boxer that we found on CL that I didn't pay a penny for, and he has been great, a pure bred Weimaraner that didn't cost a penny, and now sunshine that did cost $200. All three are awesome. And with the boxer and sunshine I still keep in touch with the previous owners. Again GO WITH YOUR GUT! You will know what feels right and what doesn't! Again, good luck and keep us posted! :D
 
Thank you! Unfortunately most birds are a few hours away which makes it hard to visit ahead of adoption.

Any thoughts on the impulse to buy a rehomed bird from a family that isn't treating the bird well? I don't want to encourage people to throw out pets but don't want to leave a bird in a bad situation either!

First, I've had good luck with CL - but mostly by making rules for myself -

If the asking price is way too high, don't bother to respond.

If the person sounds dicey on any level, I pass.

Never rescue a bird just to get it out of the situation. Only take a bird you absolutely want, who also wants you (or seems like he intends to give you a fair shot).

This would be the rule I broke a few months ago when we took in Cookie, a sulphur crested cockatoo.

We brought him home because his owner was what I can only describe as benignly bad with birds, the kind of guy who wanted a bird, started with a cockatoo (one of the most complex & needy personalities out there), then probably decided the amount of attention and the cost were too much - not to mention a chewing & screaming cockatoo is a good way to get kicked out of a rental townhouse. So after the bird had been there a year & started to settle in, he was being placed, again. (Which is a very common theme for CL birds - "sadly, life changed meaning I can't give this bird the attention he deserves" and then you find they've had the bird for a month or a year & come to understand the "live changes" is they have decided they don't like their new toy & the responsibility, so it must go. But they want to lecture YOU on the need for stability in the bird's life & want YOU to promise the "forever home" that they promised the prior owner, but didn't provide.)

Standing there looking at him in his former home, I knew I wasn't in love, but hated to leave him in a situation that clearly made him unhappy (long days alone in a room). Even so, I don't think he necessarily wanted to leave a known environment - he loved his cheap-seed diet & just wanted to spend more time with his owner, who was away for days at a time, and with the 2 other birds in his house (who were in a different room from him).

So I can't really say that we did him a favor, in his eyes at the time - although in my world, improving his diet & giving him the companionship of other parrots & more (if somewhat casual) attention from humans has calmed his plucking & offers him a chance at a longer life.

We didn't promise the forever home & I told myself we would try to rehome him quickly to someone who would have fewer birds/more time than we did, so he didn't have time to try to bond with us. We would merely be petsitters. And yes, I felt guilty, but still thought overall it would be a better life for him.

I paid $300 for him & a nice cage & was thinking of asking $300 to weed out some of the flakes who respond to ads for birds (flakes like his prior owner, for example). In reality, I would have given him & his cage to the right person, if they came along.

Of course, no one really NEEDS a cockatoo & the responsible owners have tons of them already. So Cookie is ensconced in the corner of the bird-room, where he can look out the front window & warn us of cars coming up the driveway, look over my shoulder when I work at my desk, roost a few feet from our other South Pacific birds (the budgies) & converse with Goose-the-Greenwing when he is on his day-cage, right next to Cookie.

He is growing on me - he gives the Grey a run for his money in the "smart" department although Cookie has sole title of "most destructive" in THIS house. He used to be right beside my desk, where I carefully set his cage far enough from the corner of the desk & the window that stretched full out from the side of his cage, he couldn't reach (and chew on) the furniture or the woodwork. Unfortunately, I forgot that he could easily move the thumb protector on the outside of his food door, open it & give himself an additional 4" reach toward the desk. When I noticed the woodchips on the floor, I moved him a little toward the window, still far enough away. Or not. when I found THOSE woodchips, I rearranged the furniture. He immediately grabbed hold of a fern & upended it on the carpet.

The fern is now tied to the macaw's cage, so if Cookie grabs it, it isn't going anywhere . . . I just have no place else to move him!

I love setting him a challenge, just to watch how he solves the problem. And when he won't go back into his cage at night, I'm pretty sure he is setting a challenge for ME, just to see if I can solve the problem, too.

So things turned out fine, but that was luck, not planning, and by the time I realized it was possible we'd made a bad mistake, there was no turning back.

So the lesson I took away from that is that you must always remember that you can't personally save them all - and if you try, you risk becoming a 'birds need rescue' situation yourself.

But I DO think you can find the right companion on CL (PaulE, my beloved amazon, is a CL bird, too). And I think you really CAN help one out of the wrong situation & prevent it from having to go to a rescue to wait for its special person to show up. No meaning any disrespect to rescues, but I think that the type of parrot who enjoys the companionship of humans and bonds to one individual is not happy in that situation, even though they are safe and well-cared-for there.

Whatever you decide, good luck!
 
Thank you everyone for the stories and advice! I hadn't thought of asking the owner to handle the bird for me--I will do that now. :)

I have been talking on the phone with the owner of a 7 year old yellow crowned amazon and I get a good vibe from him and his bird. She's his only bird, and he is giving her up due to his and his wife's aging and allergies. He's her original owner, and seems to know a lot about birds, and disappointed that nobody has come to see her. He's asking $500 for her and her cage, but said he'd come down to $400. Doesn't seem overpriced to me. My gut feels good about this bird, based on my conversations with her owner (and it is easier to talk on the phone over email!). I think he's telling the truth when he says she is a hand-tame, spends time out of the cage every morning, and a friendly bird (when she's in the mood) with no behavior problems. (I think I am inclined to believe him because he's been her only owner.) Overall my gut says GREAT BIRD, GREAT OWNER.

The bird second owner I've been talking to is the family I mentioned with the sun conure in the budgie cage. They think she is 12, but aren't positive. They've only had her for six months, and said they are getting rid of her because they have too many pets and the kids don't give her enough attention. Sounds like it has been mom and dad's job to look after the bird, and the mom is going back to work and doesn't have time to play with the conure anymore. They are asking $200 (seems like a lot considering I'd have to get her a new cage immediately, but people are asking over $400 for rehomed conures in my city!!!) The family was frank that the bird bites/screams when she is scared (as would any bird!) but say she is hand tame (and posted pictures of them holding her and snuggling with her.) This conure is appealing because she's only 4 years younger than my nanday (if she really is 12, who knows) but I also worry about adopting a bird from a family that sees pets as disposable. Overall, my gut says POOR BIRD RESCUE HER FROM THE TINY CAGE.

Is it a red flag if a bird has been on Craigslist a few weeks? Both owners say many people have called but nobody has actually come to see the birds. (But it could be because both live out in the country--an hour and an hour and a half drive from the city, respectively.)

(I have emailed about a dozen people with birds on CL, and most have written one line about the bird and haven't written back to my email asking basic questions like the bird's age, name, and if they are the original owner. I suspect these folks are bird flippers!)

I haven't decided yet what type of bird to rehome. I know I don't want something smaller than a sun/nanday/jenday conure and don't want anything bigger than an amazon or a gray.
 
With this economy, $400-$500.00 for a pet is hard to come by and I suspect that is the reason no body has shown up to look at the birds. Most of the calls they are getting I imagine are from bird flippers trying to beat them down on their price.
The main issue I have with people selling their pets on Craigslist or Ebay Classifieds are that they seem to be more concerned with their bottom line or trying to re-coop their investment back rather than what's best for the animal.

If I ever have to rehome a pet, there will be no fee attached what so ever. My only concern would be for the wellfare of my animals period. This is why I would do extensive phone interview first off, then a home inspection or visit prior to any commitment being made. I also don't look at giving my bird away for free but then ask for $500.00 for the cage and playstand and toys. To me, these are their home and should always accompany the bird or animal.
 
The sun conure family seems sketchy. They say their sun conure was adopted yesterday, but all of a sudden they have a jenday conure they're trying to rehome too!

This is the amazon I have been considering meeting, but she lives an hour and a half away so I haven't had time to go yet: http://seattle.craigslist.org/oly/for/3308662695.html

Any red flags? The owners seems nice & well informed on the phone but it looks like she doesn't have many toys in her age.
 
The sun conure family seems sketchy. They say their sun conure was adopted yesterday, but all of a sudden they have a jenday conure they're trying to rehome too!

This is the amazon I have been considering meeting, but she lives an hour and a half away so I haven't had time to go yet: Yellow Crowned Amazon Parrot w/ Cage

Any red flags? The owners seems nice & well informed on the phone but it looks like she doesn't have many toys in her age.

See your gut was telling you right! Stay away from the sun family, def seems sketchy to me! The amazon seems right, your gut is telling you yes, youve actually spoke to the man, go with it!!! :D
 
Ok I just looked at the ad, are those red feathers on the joint on the wings or is that red skin? Also the cage looks to small for the bird (but Im not an expert) hhhmmm it will be interesting to see what others have to say! :confused:
 
YCA usually have red feathers on the wing so I assume that's not a bald patch. I agree the cage is smallish... it is 24 inches by 24 inches (the owner measured it for me). He said she comes out about a half hour and plays in the morning when he cleans her cage (good sign he cleans her cage daily!!) and goes back in on her own after about 30 minutes. Seems like she'd want more time out of the cage than that. I also am interested in what others have to say!
 
YCA usually have red feathers on the wing so I assume that's not a bald patch. I agree the cage is smallish... it is 24 inches by 24 inches (the owner measured it for me). He said she comes out about a half hour and plays in the morning when he cleans her cage (good sign he cleans her cage daily!!) and goes back in on her own after about 30 minutes. Seems like she'd want more time out of the cage than that. I also am interested in what others have to say!

Haha neither of my birds spent/spend more time IN their cage than needed. Literally only when put to bed at night and if I go out during the day and lock them in. It would be weird to me to have a bird actually like going in their cage and playing with all the toys in there too! Haha
 
Yellow Crowns have red feathers at the joint of their wing - don't worry about that. I don't like the cage & I would also think that she would want more out-of-cage time than 30 min., but it might be a habit - and it might be all the time they think she needs. And it might be that if you get her, she'll want more out-of-cage time with you.

The only thing I would do would be to look around the internet to see if there are other copies of those pictures of her elsewhere. I've seen craigslist ads where the picture was "borrowed" from a different website - not the actual bird. But it could also be that the current owner is just a good photographer.

I would go look. [Then again, I've got a yellow crown I completely adore, so I'm a sucker for a nice amazon & not completely neutral on this sort of thing . . . ]
 
If we had passed up Sunny on Craigslist we would have missed a best friend. She was $350 with her big cage, two metal play stands and a manzanita tree. Her family truly wanted someone to love her and give her the home they thought she deserve. Was she easy? No, she was traumatized by the loss of her family and hated us for kidnapping her. Also we were her fourth family and don't know her previous issues. We had several rough weeks with a growling, lunging, biting macaw, before we got it worked out. Now she is a forever member of our family. I would not buy a bird that was to be shipped ever. Most of those are scams. At the same time I would not necessarily turn down one with problems. These are intelligent emotional creatures who too often get treated as decorations and deserve a chance. Our first parrot was a baby we finished hand feeding. She was a great experience but we will never do that again. There are lots of people who want them. We will look for the unwanted birds who have so much to offer. Also I would never sell a bird on Craigslist. Too many flippers for birds priced like Sunny. It makes me shudder to think where Sunny might have gone. I just happened to open Craigslist seconds after she was listed.
 

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