Video: My neighbor and I just rescued this escaped ringneck from certain death!!!

[Katu]

I'd take him if I could, but it's a no go with the US-Canada border situation. I hope you can take him to foster before he gets into real trouble again. This woman is irresponsible. I'd be a wreck worrying about him. Hoping for the best though!

 

[Tropical]

I'd take him if I could, but it's a no go with the US-Canada border situation. I hope you can take him to foster before he gets into real trouble again. This woman is irresponsible. I'd be a wreck worrying about him. Hoping for the best though!

Yes, and this was right after I told her NUMEROUS times people NEVER listen and THINK they can get away with opening front doors when there is a loose bird in the house... and that when people start being lenient from the RULES they MUST follow when you are a bird owner is when disasters happen!!!

I found a FANTASTIC shelter that is legit and my avian vet is a board member and this shelter also holds meetings at this avian vet's clinic every other sunday and I spoke to a man named Dean who is the guy this shelter uses to rehome birds... I spoke to him for at least 2 solid hours on the phone. They also REQUIRE the home to be visited first and make the person adopting sign a contract etc.

I would take the IRN but I honestly do NOT feel COMFORTABLE having a grown IRN in my house.... 'Nut is ALWAYS all over the condo and I would constantly be stressed about the IRN harming one of my tiels.

The ONLY way I would ever feel "comfortable" is if I got a GCC and weaned him myself and the GCC and or IRN grew up and was raised around tiels.... I know that is not a guarantee of anything at all... but that is the ONLY way I would feel "comfortable" having another species of parrot in my house ... and even then to be honest... I know lots of people do this but sometimes it can end in tragedy and if something happened to Rascal or cute little 'Nut because I inter mixed species I would die

 

[Tropical]

I'd take him if I could, but it's a no go with the US-Canada border situation. I hope you can take him to foster before he gets into real trouble again. This woman is irresponsible. I'd be a wreck worrying about him. Hoping for the best though!

I know what you mean... I live in Florida now and 100% going to move back to Budapest, Hungary in a few years... and taking my tiels with me will already be a big challenge (thankfully tiels are not on CITES)... but IRNs are so that's even more difficult!!

 

[LordTriggs]

I'd take him if I could, but it's a no go with the US-Canada border situation. I hope you can take him to foster before he gets into real trouble again. This woman is irresponsible. I'd be a wreck worrying about him. Hoping for the best though!

I know what you mean... I live in Florida now and 100% going to move back to Budapest, Hungary in a few years... and taking my tiels with me will already be a big challenge (thankfully tiels are not on CITES)... but IRNs are so that's even more difficult!!

just so you know Ringnecks aren't classed under the CITES list

at least as far as I can tell

 

[Tropical]

I'd take him if I could, but it's a no go with the US-Canada border situation. I hope you can take him to foster before he gets into real trouble again. This woman is irresponsible. I'd be a wreck worrying about him. Hoping for the best though!

I know what you mean... I live in Florida now and 100% going to move back to Budapest, Hungary in a few years... and taking my tiels with me will already be a big challenge (thankfully tiels are not on CITES)... but IRNs are so that's even more difficult!!

just so you know Ringnecks aren't classed under the CITES list

at least as far as I can tell

Interesting! Yes I see you are correct... Thanks so much for pointing that out! I found this information off of google this morning:

Agapornis roseicollis, Budgies, Cockatiels and Indian Ringnecks do not appear on any CITES list. All other parrots are listed on Schedule II of CITES.Aug 7, 2011

... so in other words taking a GCC overseas would be a lot mot difficult than a cockatiel or IRN This information I found is from 2011 so who knows if it chnaged... but it appears it has remained the same...

 

[LordTriggs]

GCC definitely not on the list either! Over here the laws are so strict with selling birds it's pretty hard to find people who sell birds poorly. You either find pure scams where there's no bird or legit sellers. It mainly comes down to if they're on the endangered list

Small birds aren't really on it that often, only those which are endangered like those wonderful Blue throat conures I want! It's a bit odd really. I wish there was a thing on the CITES website where you just search by species. would make life easy

 

[Tropical]

GCC definitely not on the list either! Over here the laws are so strict with selling birds it's pretty hard to find people who sell birds poorly. You either find pure scams where there's no bird or legit sellers. It mainly comes down to if they're on the endangered list

Small birds aren't really on it that often, only those which are endangered like those wonderful Blue throat conures I want! It's a bit odd really. I wish there was a thing on the CITES website where you just search by species. would make life easy

Are you 100% positive GCCs are not on CITES??? The below info is what I found along with several sites on the internet saying GCCs are on CITES II:

The Green-cheeked Conure has become one of the most popular species in aviculture so it was good to see an article devoted to Pyrrhuras in the November issue. However, Pauline James seems to be unclear about CITES-listed species. ... Nearly all parrot species are on Appendix II.

 

[LordTriggs]

GCC definitely not on the list either! Over here the laws are so strict with selling birds it's pretty hard to find people who sell birds poorly. You either find pure scams where there's no bird or legit sellers. It mainly comes down to if they're on the endangered list

Small birds aren't really on it that often, only those which are endangered like those wonderful Blue throat conures I want! It's a bit odd really. I wish there was a thing on the CITES website where you just search by species. would make life easy

Are you 100% positive GCCs are not on CITES??? The below info is what I found along with several sites on the internet saying GCCs are on CITES II:

The Green-cheeked Conure has become one of the most popular species in aviculture so it was good to see an article devoted to Pyrrhuras in the November issue. However, Pauline James seems to be unclear about CITES-listed species. ... Nearly all parrot species are on Appendix II.

Ah I got a little confused over that

Yes they're appendix 2 so you don't need paperwork for in the country, but for going in and out, you need to have all the paperwork

 

[Tropical]

GCC definitely not on the list either! Over here the laws are so strict with selling birds it's pretty hard to find people who sell birds poorly. You either find pure scams where there's no bird or legit sellers. It mainly comes down to if they're on the endangered list

Small birds aren't really on it that often, only those which are endangered like those wonderful Blue throat conures I want! It's a bit odd really. I wish there was a thing on the CITES website where you just search by species. would make life easy

Are you 100% positive GCCs are not on CITES??? The below info is what I found along with several sites on the internet saying GCCs are on CITES II:

The Green-cheeked Conure has become one of the most popular species in aviculture so it was good to see an article devoted to Pyrrhuras in the November issue. However, Pauline James seems to be unclear about CITES-listed species. ... Nearly all parrot species are on Appendix II.

Ah I got a little confused over that

Yes they're appendix 2 so you don't need paperwork for in the country, but for going in and out, you need to have all the paperwork

I see, so that means if I was traveling all throughout the EU I would not need paperwork... but if I traveled from the US to the EU or vice versa I would?

 

[Tropical]

I urgently need to get the IRN away from this woman she is a NUTCASE. She really is. She also didn't like the fact that I POLITELY told her under no circumstance can you ever open a front door when you have an unclipped bird in the house and that exposed windows are a serious hazard to the bird and that birds should not play with money or change (pennies, nickels, dimes etc because it's not safe and zinc is also toxic to them) and that the bird should only play with bird safe toys (she does not likes all the RULES).... last time I visited the IRN she opened the bloody front door to her TINY condo and the IRN was loose in her living room so I AGAIN told her POLITELY that it is when people are lenient with these rules is when disaster strikes (now she texting me that she thinks that is HARSH!!!! WTF????). Something is "off" with this woman.

She also rescues COCKROACHES in her house!!! She catches cockroaches that are seen in her home and lets them loose outside. You know, the disgusting, filthy disease carrying cockroaches that INFEST so many households in Florida!! That alone is NOT NORMAL.

Can you say wacko!!!!! Now she is sending me off the wall text messages. I need to call the shelter and have them take the bird. I'm speaking to someone tomorrow about adopting him first.

... or I can take him to Bird Safari which is where I was today and go to have my bird's nails trimmed/filed and they aid they would find him a good home (I doubt it ... they would just sell him to anyone!?)... this is strictly a bird shop. It's where I bought Rascal 5 yrs go.

 

[Tropical]

Now the woman is holding the bird hostage... meaning she is no longer allowing me to find him a good home SHE wants to determine who or what can provide him with a good home. She has completely flipped her lid and has turned on me for NO reason and it all happened within a 5 minute time frame via text!! For No reason at all too. I have been nothing but POLITE and very nice to her. She is sending me all sorts of bizarre texts messages and is saying "how could you ever let your bird out of its cage".

What on earth???

I tried calling her twice to have an adult conversation because her texts make NO sense but she refused to answer the phone.

She really does not like the fact that I told her you cannot open a front door when you have an unclipped bird in the living room. (this is why she sarcastically asked me "how could you ever let your bird out of its cage"). This woman is unstable. I never seen or dealt with anyone like this in my entire life.

She does not think it is a serious matter if someone has an unclipped bird in their living room and they open the front door. She thinks she can hear the bird flying towards the front door and she will simply shut the front door before the bird gets out (she told me this)... and she think I am HARSH and need to "get a a grip" because I told her otherwise.

 

[LordTriggs]

remind her it's not her bird and as she hasn't done ANYTHING in attempts of finding the owner it technically counts as theft

 

[Tropical]

remind her it's not her bird and as she hasn't done ANYTHING in attempts of finding the owner it technically counts as theft

She gave me spare keys to her condo two weeks ago... on monday when she is at work I need to get the bird out of there and simply place it into one of my spare bedrooms (I suspect she is going to throw a fit). The bird had been in quarantine for 3 weeks now... hopefully he doesn't have anything!???

I'm embarrassed at this woman's odd behavior (like I'm totally weirded out by it you have no idea). I have been NOTHING but tremendously kind and helpful to her and very very NICE to her!!! She is a loose cannon and cannot handle normal conversation. I'm speaking to HOA's friend today (a married couple in their late 50s/early 60s) who has owned birds for 30 yrs and they own a conure right now and they love birds and the wife is home a lot... I'm 99% sure I'm going to simply let them take the bird ASAP. I also have this spare bird cage they can have: https://www.wayfair.com/Prevue-Hend...Cage-PVP1050.html?piid=3037490#readmoremodal1

EDIT:: You are right she has done NOTHING in regards to finding the owner... I put in TONS of work and effort.

 

[AmyMyBlueFront]

Juliet...WOW! Just avoid the woman this weekend,then rescue the bird on Monday when she isn't home. Leave one of her windows open and just claim the bird must have escaped!
I fear that woman isn't even caring properly for that IRN.



Jim

 

[Tropical]

Juliet...WOW! Just avoid the woman this weekend,then rescue the bird on Monday when she isn't home. Leave one of her windows open and just claim the bird must have escaped!
I fear that woman isn't even caring properly for that IRN.
Jim

I'm also highly OFFENDED by the things this woman said to me last night via text (and I don't get offended easily by things). I have bent over backwards HELPING her. I even walked her dog for her a few times when she was stuck at work (well it's her grown daughter's dog but she keeps it at her condo often). I have NEVER been even SLIGHTLY rude to her in ANY shape or form... not even close (I have been nothing but SUPER NICE to her!!). She says I am too harsh and all my rules are "too harsh" ... i.e. front doors should not be opened when you have loose unclipped bird in living room (she has done this several times), birds should not play with money (dimes, pennies etc because it is not safe and they should stick to playing with bird safe toys only I politely told her via text and she did NOT like this one bit and she made this known... again I was very POLITE I even used smiley faces!!!).... don't cook with teflon... etc... she simply does not agree with the rules. She is wacko.

I feel like I am in the twilight zone or something. I am telling you... this woman is a NUTCASE. You have no idea! The fact that she rescues COCKROACHES every time she sees a roach in her home and let's it loose outside speaks for itself!... don't you think? I'm talking about the roaches that infest so many households. They are pests!!!

The IRN is living inside the cage I lent her... so I will go to her condo on monday and simply take my belongings back (being my cage!) and then I will have to keep the IRN at my mom's house because he's only had 3 weeks of quarantine... is that safe enough?

I'm waiting for the lady who wants to adopt him to call me back... I left her voicemail this morning. Life is too damn short to deal with people like this nutcase woman. It really is.

 

[AmyMyBlueFront]

Well J..the fact that the IRN was so healthy looking in the pictures you posted and the way he has been interacting with you and eating well,would make me feel that he was/is a well cared for bird,and I seriously doubt that he has any medical issues that could possibly affect Rascal or 'Nut...after three weeks I think all is well with Romeo..But I DO understand your concerns.

You have gone above and beyond what a lot of people would have done for that bird..and that !@#(&^ neighbor of yours!!

Let's see...I can be in Florida with a 24 hour drive...hmmmm...do I need a new playmate for Amy and BB??





Jim

 

[Katu]

I agree. Just don't talk to her this weekend. If she contacts you just be polite. But the bird has to go. I don't feel he's at all safe there, and at the very least will end up homeless and flying out a door at some point. Be civil with her though. You don't want her calling the police or trying to sue you for who knows what.

 

[Tropical]

I agree. Just don't talk to her this weekend. If she contacts you just be polite. But the bird has to go. I don't feel he's at all safe there, and at the very least will end up homeless and flying out a door at some point. Be civil with her though. You don't want her calling the police or trying to sue you for who knows what.

I totally agree. I'm not contacting her at all anymore. My communications with her is over. She has proven that she is incapable of having normal conversations. I fell as though I am dealing with 2 year old child is what communicating with this woman is like. I have always been VERY civil with her though... not to mention very NICE and polite to her at all times... which is why I feel like I am in the twilight zone... but you can't reason with someone who is unstable. This has to be the most bizarre experience I have encountered and I feel sorry for the poor bird.

 

[Tropical]

Well J..the fact that the IRN was so healthy looking in the pictures you posted and the way he has been interacting with you and eating well,would make me feel that he was/is a well cared for bird,and I seriously doubt that he has any medical issues that could possibly affect Rascal or 'Nut...after three weeks I think all is well with Romeo..But I DO understand your concerns.

You have gone above and beyond what a lot of people would have done for that bird..and that !@#(&^ neighbor of yours!!

Let's see...I can be in Florida with a 24 hour drive...hmmmm...do I need a new playmate for Amy and BB??

Jim

I feel bad for not adopting the IRN but I just don't feel safe having an IRN around my tiels I mean, am I being too paranoid??
The lady I know at the bird shop yesterday (who sold Rascal to me few yrs ago) told me that she personally would not have the IRN in my home unless the IRN was kept in another room because she has seen it happen too many times where a tiel loses a toe by landing on top of the conures cage (or this this cage IRN's cage).

'Nut is always all over the place and I can't have my tiels locked in cage just to have the IRN out

 

[AmyMyBlueFront]

You might be a LITTLE paranoid lol But hey!!...Rascal and 'Nut are YOUR family/kids!! and it is quite fine for you feeling the way you do...don't beat yourself up over how you are thinking this over my friend.

If it were ME..I'd give it a go...but that's just ME.. But I'd be ever so watchful on how my kids and a "new kid on the block" got along.

You say you work from home,so you'd be right there to intervene IF things turned bad..THEN you'd have to find a new home for Romeo anyway. So, in your situation,I think your best bet would be to just find a new home for him.
I'm sure there is SOMEONE out there that would just love such a handsome little guy!

Do you have a spare room? Maybe put him in there by himself,away from the 'tiels and you could interact with him in "his" room,just the two of you.
but that is also time consuming.

You are in a difficult situation girl. Like I said,don't beat yourself up! You are doing THE BEST you can right now!! No one is going to fault you,or think twice about what you decide to do!!


Jim