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Old 08-20-2015, 12:10 PM
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Re: Help me find the right bird, but tell it to me straight

Asthma runs in both sides of our family. I know and understand the needs of someone that suffers from Asthma. The forced air heating/cooling system commonly is the last thing that people think about and more often target what they see (i.e. the bird). If the forced air heating/cooling system has not been cleaned in the past four to six years that is the most likely source of problems. In addition, most homes have not upgraded from the old standard 1" filter to the new 3" filters, which are available to meet different needs, better levels of filtering. Plus, most people only replace whatever filter they have only when they remember.
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Old 08-20-2015, 12:23 PM
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Re: Help me find the right bird, but tell it to me straight

Quote: Originally Posted by BluePaint View Post
I've read conflicting info on whether to get a young, hand fed bird and start off right or to get a grown rescue and avoid puberty, but deal with a bird that has issues. Maybe this is a dumb question, but are there often hand tame, family friendly birds at rescues? I'd be willing to drive a ways out if there are.

If I go for a grown bird, at what age are they out of the woods for puberty?

Most of the local profiles detail birds that are pretty skittish, previous breeders, or avid pluckers. I'll give that one that's open a call and see if they're just not listing all their birds.
I'm all for adopting rescues! I do have my ones that I got as babies and I bred my first two cockatiels and pulled the babies when they were two to three weeks old to handfeed since the male was trying to kill them. Soooo no judgement on my part if you go for a baby They each come with their own challenges and issues to work through.

Rescues do have birds that come in that do well with kids. We have adopted a wide variety of birds to families with children. The only way to know for sure is to ask. Just make sure the shelters near you have a good reputation because not all shelters are the best.

A Helping Wing has adopted a slew of gccs to families with kids. There have been other conures too. We have also adopted a very extraordinary amazon to a family with kids and the same for a few big cockatoos. I'm guessing we have for macaws too but I'm not really recalling any right this second. Our go to for kids are the conures but if the kids are calm and listen we will allow families to adopt larger birds. But if we tell a kid not to stick their fingers in a cage but they do it anyway or its bouncing through the rooms then no we don't introduce the bigger ones.

At our shelter right now we have a few little birds, a cockatoo, and possibly a grey that could easily go with a family with little ones. They aren't perfect but I guarantee that any baby you get wouldn't be perfect either even if we all like to pretend they are little angels sometimes
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Old 08-20-2015, 02:30 PM
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Re: Help me find the right bird, but tell it to me straight

I know green cheeks are nippy, but if I could get another bird, I would get another green cheek! I love them, they are "quieter" (no bird is quiet) then any other conure. They are so fun and cuddly. Actually, my green cheek is on my head currently! They are more for apartment life then big conures when I meet my friends Jenday or sun, they are so loud just because. But her green cheek is the one who sits there and plays or eats. They have dander but all birds do and much less then a tiel. My tiel I had was so dusty and I dont have asthma but I had allergies really bad. But then when he left, I didn't have the same issues. There was dust everywhere! Oh my and they aren't even the dustiest! African greys and cockatoos are way worse! I can't even imagine! So please consider a green cheek, fun playful sweet and a good size, they aren't intimidating at all
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Old 08-20-2015, 02:51 PM
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Re: Help me find the right bird, but tell it to me straight

Blue Paint,

I'm all for rehomes too! I got my Parker - male red sided eclectus - as a Craigslist ad. He is a plucker but he's not bald (plucks to the down feather seasonally, so it's possibly natural hormonal plucking. He's feathering out right now).

Just be aware that rescues will have a number of hurdles you will have to overcome (multiple visits to your house, multiple visits to visit the bird), all of which are designed for the best interest of the bird. I ultimately ruled out rescues myself because I don't have that kind of time during the day to devote to the homing process. Additionally (this may vary from one rescue to the next), scour the fine print. My local rescue mandates that while you have the bird, it is still under their legal guardianship which has a number of ramifications for the owner. I have a number of issues with this, so a rescue wasn't for me.

But everything worked out great! Parker came to me as a 6 year old (through puberty but like any other mature bird, seasonally hormonal). He came to me already trained, and I couldn't have trained a better bird if I tried. He is very social and steps up for other people, he's not generally a squaker (with somewhat predictable exceptions), and he is able to talk up a storm - so long as we aren't int he room...or have a camera rigged up to catch him talking.
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Re: Help me find the right bird, but tell it to me straight

I would agree. Check craigslist in your area.

And a green cheek may be ideal. I have a young one but I have bird experience and the training involved doesn't bother me. I adopted my amazon off craigslist and the family that had her loved her greatly just couldn't keep her anymore. She has zero bad habits and is very healthy and happy.
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Old 08-20-2015, 03:50 PM
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Re: Help me find the right bird, but tell it to me straight

If you want a parrot, even a small one, then you're going to have to deal with the 'parrot characteristics' that come along with it which will involve training that you can't get relaxed on if you want a bird who is well trained around kids. Even then, of course they can bite hard. But if you decide to get a small parrot, there is a wealth of great advice here on the forum.

I personally think an English Budgie is an excellent idea! I don't think of the small guys as starter birds at all... just different. I've had parrots for a long time BEFORE getting into budgies. I love the small birds.

Mink, my English girl is NOTHING like my American budgie. She is SO much more calm, easy going, she was handfed so she is tame and steps up, and as a bonus she is extremely cute and super soft to touch as well . Just adorable. If I could have more birds right now, I'd get a couple more English. She has a cute and funny personality, loves both hanging and foot toys. If you get one used to you, they can become as closely bonded to the family as any parrot, without the hard bites or neediness.
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Old 08-20-2015, 04:28 PM
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Re: Help me find the right bird, but tell it to me straight

All birds have personality, and all birds can be nippy/beaky. Know the difference though, beaky birds are just using their beak to get around, unless they bite down this isn't an issue. Conures likes climbing and clowning around, which can turn nippy but can be dealt with by pressure training. Then biting, its obviously bad but again it can be trained out.

I love green cheeks, but they are like kids where if they can put it in their mouth they will try.

As for allergies, if you want to look at other allergy friendly species look for "new world parrots". Typically but not always the case, new world parrots skin have oil glands rather than relying on dust, which is why green cheeks are recommended for people with potential allergies.

If you're set on green cheeks then welcome, but you and your children will have to be comfortable with the chance that they will be bit either on purpose or accident at some point. This is true for all birds but you you want a hands on bird, for cuddles and affection, you all will need to work for it and put hands in the firing line. Smaller the beak, smaller the bite. This is not fear mongering, this is someone who loves their bird and has been bit for things like holding his toy, moving his shining things, alternatively I've been bit because he lost balance, not a real bite but it can hurt (he is gentler now after training).
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Old 08-20-2015, 04:48 PM
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Re: Help me find the right bird, but tell it to me straight

An English budgie I think would be a perfect fit like RavensGryf suggested. GCCs can be nippy but also very friendly and cuddly depending on the GCC. A Cockateil would be nice too! They are usually pretty mellow but dusty I think?

My personal favorites are the Pois such as Red bellies, Senegals and the like and also lovebirds but I don't think they would be a good fit for your family, just my opinion.
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Re: Help me find the right bird, but tell it to me straight

My little sun conure was the sweetest little bird who ever lived... BUT they can be loud!

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Old 08-20-2015, 05:31 PM
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Re: Help me find the right bird, but tell it to me straight

Smaller the beak, smaller the bite...

Well I would rather get bitten by a big macaw then the little brats just saying! I absolutely hate being bitten by the little birds and it always hurts like a yeah well you know.
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