adopted older eclectus

burdman

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Hello, this is my first visit to the forum. This past weekend my wife and I picked up an older (13 years) male eclectus. He is a hard luck case, in that his owner is quite elderly and was diagnosed with a terminal disease forcing him to part with his beloved companion. It was very emotional for the owner and the bird. We were able to get his cage and his most recent toys. He has spent roughly a month at the store where he was originally purchased, which is where we were introduced. He had been being slowly socialised and was just recently brought out of the back room and onto the shop floor.
So far so good. We wanted to let him get used to his new surroundings for as long as needed before trying to have too much physical interaction with him, but he had other ideas. Within an hour of his arrival he was talking, taking new foods, and seeming generally content. Having had several birds in the past I was able to see that he was anxious to interact with us more than us just talking calmly to him in his cage. We let him out within hours of his arrival.
What a sweatheart he is. There were a couple "inquisitive" nips initially, but he was trained in "up" hand commands and we were soon holding him with no problems (once we learned the "up" command ourselves).
He seems to prefer me holding him as opposed to my wife, but she is able to work with him without any nipping.
He will sit on my shoulder for as long as I will let him, and gladly steps off my shoulder onto his cage when its time to go. He likes my facial hair, especially around my mouth. I get the impression his past owner may have given treats with his mouth, though that is only speculation (I used to do this with birds I've had in the past). He will let me nuzzle him with my ear or cheek without any protest. He seems generally content on my shoulder.
Last night we had a very minor incident. I had him out kind of late, about 9:30. When it came time to go to bed I was able to put him on his cage, but when I attempted to put him back in the cage he would not cooperate. I tried several times to get him on my hand but he was having none of it. He wasn't biting or acting the least bit aggressive, he just would not let me pick him up. He didn't do the eclectus freeze, but just looked at me each time I tried to pick him up. I tried leaving the room to see if he'd return on his own, no luck. I thought maybe he was having trust isues so thought I'd try a dowel. This he did not like at all. Now things were getting a bit more heated for him. I kept talking to him calmly and finally he walked to the front of the cage and calmly crawled onto my hand and I was able to place him in his home. The only thing I could figure was that my approach was somehow not what he was used to, so I will work on that.
We want him to have the best life possible. It breaks our hearts to hear him say "hello Jim" when I walk into the room because we assume this was either his owners name, or someone his owner spoke to.
They said at the pet store that he has an extensive vocabulary, but we have only heard a few phrases and singular words. Is there anything that we might be able to do to unlock his vocal repertoire?
What signs might we watch for that would indicate he is pining for his old owner, other than feather pulling or diminished appetite (neither of which he is doing). What can we do to comfort him during his transition other than what we are doing? He is a hearty eater and we have been giving him a wide variety of fruits and veggies as well as his staple pellets.
Do eclectus enjoy play areas? He seems rather docile while out of his cage, but a real accrobat inside it.

Thanx
 
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JerseyWendy

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Welcome to the forum, burdman and THANK YOU so much for giving this Eclectus a new home. :) How very tragic about his former owner. :(

I personally do not have Eclectus, however, we have many wonderful members who I'm sure will be able to assist you with your new boy. :)

I'm fairly sure that he'd LOVE a playstand/Java Tree, or any other play area other than his cage. :)
 

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It can take him time to get used to you guys before he starts talking. JoJo our boy will not talk infront of me for a long time but he goes on and on now days. Mine don't care much for toys but they do play with them occasionally. You just need to be sure to start re-enforce the step up command by having him go from hand to hand. They're wonderful birds and you will enjoy them. :)
 

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Good for you! And good for him too! I adopted my Eclectus' as a bit older birds too and they did very well adjusting to our home. You might try using a rope perch looped back into your hand to step him up fro the cage top. It usually works a bit better than a dowel.

Maybe he is used to getting a small treat at bedtime?

Mine enjoy being on a playstand near me, but my females will try to get to the floor or other nesting areas.
 
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Thanks for the replies. Good advice. Not sure what has changed, but had him out again yesterday and could not get him to get on my hand when it was time to go back to the cage. No problem when he wants to come too me from the cage, but now two days in a row he has really resisited getting picked up once away from the cage. He isn't biting or showing aggression in any way, but he just will not get back on my hand. I am wondering if there was some routine that his old owner did with him when he was out, and he is waiting for some sort of cue. He's probably thinking "your doing it wrong". Ha ha.
So far we are letting him out for short sessions, about 15 min. to 1/2 hour at a time, twice a day. This is patly because we feel we should not let our elderly dog in the room while he is out, so she has to be locked out of the room, which she doesn't care for, and lets us know it. Hoping we will get to a point where he can be out while the dog is around, but we are not going to force that on him.
Maybe he wants to stay out longer.

He loves grapes, so hoping to try and coax him with some today and see if that helps.

I've been concerned about him being bored while we are at work. I am turning on a radio for him. Is this a good idea?

Thanx
 

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I think the radio is fine but also make sure you are providing some toys for him too.

He might just be trying to see what he can get away with. ;) Parrots will try and take control if they can.
 

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I leave the radio on whenever we are not home, For all the pets. Cat,dog, and four birds.I think it helps keep them calm and relaxed and also helps to mask some of the outside noises, Such as dogs barking, Lawnmowers etc. When we are home either the tv is on or the radio or cd playing music. They love peruian bamboo flute music.:)
 

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You should up the amount of time he comes out for training. JoJo needed a ton of training from the beginning and I take him out 4+ times per day and around 25-40min each time to train him. He was stepping up real good at 3 days. Stop attacking in one month and trusting in a month. He's ready to step up now days when I offer my hand. You just need to be consistent!
 

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He sounds pretty smart, to me. If you are asking him to step up because you want to put him back in his cage he probably figures if he doesn't step up he won't have to go in.

Also, if he's been caged all day and only gets out for 15 or 20 minutes in the evening, he probably is quite restless.

How would your dog react if you picked up a kennel and put a nice cushion and blanket in it right there in the room where you have the bird cage? I would think this would be the easiest on everyone. When the bird is out, the dog is kenneled but isn't locked out. Then the bird can stay out a couple hours.
 

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Try practicing Step Up with treats, but not taking him anywhere. Just a step up, then back to whatever he was standing on. Its a good trust building exercise and he will gain confidence in his new handlers. Good luck with him and thank you for taking a pre-owned bird.
 
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We're doing a lot better. Something odd, he has twice now regurgitated on top of his cage. I looked it up and saw something about hormonal reaction, but should I be concerned that this could be something else health related?
He sat on my arm today for 45 minutes while I read to him and chatted.
He was so relaxed he was leaned back on his haunches (do birds have haunches?), kind of supported by his tail. I looked down and he wasn't even holding onto me with his front claws, they were just up in the air. He seemed very content. I took him back to his cage, left the room and when I came back we did a perfect step up again.
Thank you for all your great advice everybody
 

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You mean he lean his bottom tail against you?? Kinda going downwards, if he's doing what I think he's doing, he's mating with you. When JoJo start his mating thing with me I put him away. I'm glad he's doing better with stepping up. BUT at any time your concerned about his health, you should have a avian vet take a look at him as we can only speculate what's going on.
 

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That's a hard call. Either he is sick and throwing up and off his feet -or- he's regurgitating (feeding you) and mating with you.

When he was sitting on your arm was he doing a swishy move with his tail?
 
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I am pretty sure its hormonal. He only does it when he is on the perch top, and he rubs it off his beak onto the knob of the lever that opens the top. It is a very small quantity. If I see it happening at any other time, or if he seems distressed when it happens it will be straight to the vet. When he did this last night I was out of the room, he was alone with my wife.

I have noticed that he will sometimes "magically" produce a piece of food that I had seen him eating earlier and start chewing on it as though he somehow stored it in his cheek or something.

No, he is not swishing. I know what you are talking about. We had a cockatiel that used to do the swishy thing with his perches on occasion.

When he was leaned back on my arm he was totally calm, not moving at all. He seemed to be just relaxed. He was half on my arm, half on the couch arm, sorta like the picture in my avatar, but leaned back a little more. In fact that pic was taken a few minutes after that behavior, when he shifted a little and put his front claws back on my arm.
 
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sodakat

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Sometimes they store food in their bottom beak. I have seen them use a toenail to get it out. Different birds have different habits, especially if they have spent a lot of time alone and have come up with ways to soothe themselves.

Also, some birds will regurgitate a bit on an object then eat it.
 

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