Cockatiel not able to stand

[wasimafser]

You are saying if you hold him up the leg will move to hang beneath him in a more normal position and he can wiggle his toes on the bad leg?
But he can't stand? And the leg just lays behind him when he is laying down?

Thank you again for the response. And, Yes when I hold him up his bad leg stays in a "sitting position" while the other one comes to a normal hanging position. And yes he can wiggle his toes on the bad leg.

I recently contacted an avian specialist who's within an hour of drive to. Will try to go there.

 

[wasimafser]

Another improvement is, he can now turn his head back to clean his wings and probably below his wings too. He couldn't do it before. Now it takes a bit of time, but he does it in the end.

Also the previous doctor prescribed neurobion forte for him. I gave one fourth of the tablet to him day and night for the two days ( mixed with water ). Even though he didn't eat the full dosage prescribed. I doubtfully stopped him and didn't force him. I will ask the new vet about it

 

[noodles123]

You never want to mix with water, as it can make them drink too little and because you cannot control dosing.

 

[Scott]

Locating an avian vet within reasonable distance is wonderful! Hope you are able to schedule an appointment soon! Meanwhile, please be careful with medicines and supplements not prescribed by a specialist!

 

[Laurasea]

every day I check for updates. You two are in my hearts. I'm hoping for improvements and recovery.
So happy to hear an avain vet had been found.

 

[wasimafser]

So , visited the vet and he examined the bird , pulled his legs etc and finally told me that he would have been doing that because of pain and there's nothing to worry about it. He prescribed pain killer ( suspension meloxicam ) and suppliments ( AZ drops ).


By the way... On the way to the vet's place, ( I took him and his partner in a smaller cage , thought of taking him alone in a box, but his partner didn't stop screaming, so had to take her with us ), he tried to climb on the perch extremely low multiple times, he successfully climbed on top of it but also slipped down everytime due to bumps.

 

[Laurasea]

Sorry I think the vet is wrong...
We had a lady sith an Amazon parrot went for a nail trim came out in pain wouldn't stand. She took back to the
Vet they said oh arthritis acting up...
She posted a video and as soon as I saw it I knew the hip was dislocated , and begged ger to find a second vet, who finally did x rsy snd confirmed hip dislocation.....thats in America and both vets were certified avain, tho tge first was covering their butt because tgey caused the injury during restrain and nail trim, and were not honorable ...

I have not see your burd, so I can not known fir sure, but what you describes is serious.

But I don't know what you can do st this point uiu hsve seen 2 vets!!! You are doing everything right!

Can yoi post a picture of him just ad he us laying down that shows his leg? And have someone take a picture while yiu hold him up?

I'm so glad the vet gave pain meds. If he has a fracture it xan heal on its own, but may not have full use of leg. Of his pelvis is fracture there isn't anything you heal to it eoukd dirt of free float, if dislocated the body will try to scare into place but may nit be able to use.
It could be that you will need to think amputation down the road as tge best option.... but the body does have an amazing ability to heal itself , and burds can learn to work with their disabilities.

Of course I can be wrong ...

Or thus is due to health nutrition, or illness, tumor, or toxic event.... i can't see yiur burd and how it moves, i am halfway around tge world

I'm just trying to help, just want to help....

I hope he keeps healing and improving, I know you are taking great care of him, and doing everything possible!

 

[wasimafser]

Thank you again for the response, the video was a good idea,
The vet I visited recently asked for one, and I sent him these : https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=1555dt4v83nZBDpl5v62qZVsm97H6Bsob

Please let me know if you have any issues with the videos. It also shows the leg at one point.

 

[Laurasea]

Awww what a beautiful baby. And even tho not fully tame yet, I can tell you will get there. For being hurt or sick was really being good, and you were so gentle.

Looked like might be thin???
Couldn't see enough of leg or how uses keg to be able to offer anything. So sorry....

I sure hope he will be able to heal with time and your gentle care.

I wish I could help more

 

[Scott]

Excellent and informative videos! Last part of second video seems to suggest his right leg is not fully usable. I dearly hope this resolves over time.

 

[wasimafser]

Thank you Scott and laurasae again,

Just now, he climbed the cage on his own and sat on the perch. Sorry about asking but a bit worried, shall I allow him to do so ? What if he falls again ? Also, he sat in a position where his legs would hang down, maybe he is tired of sitting upon em and wants to suspend them in the air sometimes ?

 

[Laurasea]

I do not know if this might be a part if the birds problem. I know you are working on diet, and I know i spoke to you before about the importance of diet. And of going outside in a safe cage and staying with them, in light shade not full sun. To help them get vitamin D . A half hour a day is good.

As for him doing this thing with supporting body but letting legs hang, I'm glad he has found a way to be comfortable, but i don't fully understand it.

METABOLIC BONE DISEASE OR RICKETS IN BIRDS
April 19, 2012

Metabolic bone disease in birds results in painful degenerative changes in the bones that result from nutritional imbalance and deficiencies. Imbalance of calcium, phosphorus, and Vitamin D3 can lead to soft or brittle beaks, claws and keel, bone fractures and enlarged parathyroid glands. These body changes lead to weakness, abnormal postures including torticollis, appetite loss, lethargy, pain, and if untreated, death. This metabolic bone disturbance is termed rickets in young birds, and metabolic bone disease (Synonym: nutritional hyperparathyroidism/osteoporosis) in older ones.

Lovebirds, it should be noted, are prone to complications from low calcium that relate to the reproductive system. Egg binding (internal retention), and oviduct prolapse (external extrusion of the reproductive tract) are a few of the possible signs of this problem. Unpaired finches and lovebirds, and sometimes, solo cockatiels are prone to excessive egg laying. This results in a chronic drain on system calcium stores. Egg binding can usually be diagnosed by palpation of the abdomen of the bird by your veterinarian, though sometimes if they are bound high in the abdomen, a radiograph (X-ray) may be required to confirm this problem. If an egg is bound internally, many signs can occur. This can be a critical situation for the bird if left untreated.

The usual diet offered to birds includes seeds, balanced formulated pellets, dried and fresh fruit, and fresh water. It should be noted that seed should be a treat, not the main staple because seeds are deficient in calcium, high in fat and phosphorus, and low in Vitamin D3. They have their role in the diet, but the birds need much more. Many owners and breeders provide a balanced nutritional supplement with key amino acids (such as lysine and methionine), vitamins, and sometimes probiotics are included in formulations to help keep the gut balance optimal.

Note that there can be a big difference between what you feed, and what the bird consumes. Some birds will favour certain seeds over other dietary components and this result in problems if foodstuffs are placed in the cage free choice. For this reason, especially in overweight birds, limited dawn and dusk feedings are recommended so that the consumption can be more closely monitored.

The natural supplements suggested below are in addition to other dietary components such as seeds, pellets, and perhaps a nutritional supplement:

Good natural sources of Vitamin A:
Dandelion leaves
Yams
Brussels sprouts
Carrots
Broccoli
Good natural sources of Vitamin D:
Cod liver oil (only very tiny amounts needed)
Good natural sources of Calcium:
Cheese (cultured*)
Yogurt (cultured*)
(*Non-cultured dairy products should be avoided due to lactose intolerance in birds)

Cuttlebone
Oyster shells
Bone meal
Spinach
Broccoli

 

[noodles123]

This is off-topic, but I'd suggest you remove all of that cloth from the cage bottom for a variety of reasons..Also, dowel perches are not good for their feet at all (they need irregular shapes in order to prevent bumble foot- but don't just grab any branch, as some wood is poisonous or contains fungus, parasites, or chemicals...and I would suggest teaching them to play with toys (gradually) as I see none in the cage. I'm not trying to be rude, but I am fan of honesty, and that cage is far too small for 1, let alone 2...

 

[Laurasea]

noodles all that is true , he lives in India. And the parrot was staying on the bottom if the cage abd needed support to stay upright

 

[noodles123]

I missed that- sorry. If the cloth is there for support, keep it. I just jumped in and didn't know the background.