What is a bronze baby?
Baby sun conures!
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I will! They are just too cute!
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It’s when you have red factor parents there’s a chance that the baby is born bronze. Their coloring is different and they have a metabolism problem. They don’t live past weaning. I talked to someone before I bred mine and she said she doesn’t think I’ll get bronze.
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Did they say why? I didn't know what a bronze was, but after I did I quick search I do not understand how someone can say they don't think you'll get one?
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I think because mine parents aren’t super dark red. I’m not really sure. So far the babies look like they will be ok.
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I am thinking about it from a genetic point of view.
It seems there's a bit of debate about whether bronze is Double factor red or not, to me it seems like the most likely conclusion.
If it is a double factor your pair will produce them. The chances will be exactly the same as producing a normal sun from your pair, 25%.
Now I don't know anything about conure genetics so that's going off my understanding of Budgie and chicken genetics, both of which can have "Semi lethal" genes like there is speculation that red factor in sun conures is.
I hope your babies continue to thrive for you! Sorry for going down a genetic rabbit hole on you, I have a tendancie to do that
When will you know if you have a bronze baby? If you do, will all be bronze?
Wow! That would be such a sad thing if there was something like this wrong with those adorable babies.I am thinking about it from a genetic point of view.
It seems there's a bit of debate about whether bronze is Double factor red or not, to me it seems like the most likely conclusion.
If it is a double factor your pair will produce them. The chances will be exactly the same as producing a normal sun from your pair, 25%.
Now I don't know anything about conure genetics so that's going off my understanding of Budgie and chicken genetics, both of which can have "Semi lethal" genes like there is speculation that red factor in sun conures is.
I hope your babies continue to thrive for you! Sorry for going down a genetic rabbit hole on you, I have a tendancie to do that
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It’s ok! I’ll let you know what the babies look like in about a week. I think I’ll know by then if I have a bronze or not.I am thinking about it from a genetic point of view.
It seems there's a bit of debate about whether bronze is Double factor red or not, to me it seems like the most likely conclusion.
If it is a double factor your pair will produce them. The chances will be exactly the same as producing a normal sun from your pair, 25%.
Now I don't know anything about conure genetics so that's going off my understanding of Budgie and chicken genetics, both of which can have "Semi lethal" genes like there is speculation that red factor in sun conures is.
I hope your babies continue to thrive for you! Sorry for going down a genetic rabbit hole on you, I have a tendancie to do that
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It would be very sad. I think mine will be ok. I’ll keep posting updates.
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Quail, Chickens, Geese
From the few feathers they have they do look Ok. Comparing to the bronze photos you shared they seem to start out quite blue and go greener later on, I see green feathers on the two with the most feathers. Again I know seriously nothing about conure breeding but that's my observation!
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It’s so sad it didn’t survive! It’s so sweet and adorable and it reminds me of a bird carved of rubies. Poor birdie
How do they die? Suddenly? Why would a breeder sell a baby bird that was doomed to die? Why do they call these babies bronze? Sorry so many questions but this is something I've never heard of.It’s so sad it didn’t survive! It’s so sweet and adorable and it reminds me of a bird carved of rubies. Poor birdie
Keet_Krazy
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- Budgies:
Emelia (F, English), Alinta (F, Bush), Mahlee (M, Bush), Moonstone (M), Pickle (M), Lettuce (F), Chive (M), Sprout (F)
Galah:
Quarter (Not DNA'd)
Other:
Quail, Chickens, Geese
They're called bronze because of the colour.
From what I am reading they die of metabolic issues not long after weaning, or are euthanised.
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She gave the bird to my friend. I’m not sure why they are called bronze. They have a problem metabolizing their food.
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I’ll know if it’s a bronze baby when the feathers come in some more. Probably in a week or two.
What do you plan to do if you learn that you have one or more bronze babies? Have them euthanized?
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I don’t know. I would probably give it lots of love and decide what to do if that time comes
