COVID-19 Virus

Haven't read thru the thread recently. I admit I avoid this thread now... too much. Recently I read that survivors who have severe cases are experiencing brain ageing of 10 years... about a 8.5 pt IQ drop! In addition to all of the other long term complications. :( USA is in a bad way. My state is having a huge surge at the same time as sending kids back to school and allowing sporting events.... and concerts! There are 2 big concerts coming up that they keep advertizing on the radio. A country music concert(very very popular here), and a rap concert. I agree that we cannot shut everything down for the entire duration of the plague, but some of these things seem like needless risks to me.



On a positive note, feed shop lady says that now they get 60% of what they order as opposed to 40-50% a few months ago. Grocery store still has gaps in the shelves, but smaller ones and the freezer that had been completely empty is stocked again. Canning jar companies are not even trying to fill demands and have stated they will not be selling any product until the spring. They are hoping to build stock for the canning season. I hope everyone has a plan for how to safely celebrate the upcoming holidays. We don't get trick or treaters here(too isolated), but there are a lot of clever ideas I have been seeing online for candy chutes and things like that. :)



We will be decorating lots and lots. It may only be the two of us here, but we need some holiday cheer.

Yes I've noticed our stores, Rome shelves and squish stuff together so it looks more full....
Most things are available, just smaller numbers....bleach us now one per household again...
 
Getting worse here. Yesterday's positivity rate was up over six %. Everything is up..hospitalization and deaths..some towns are going back to phase two.


Florida near 6,000 New cases, we don't report hospital rate. And as i linked a few pages back our positively rate can't be trusted according to John Hopkins, and WHO which states Florida isn't meeting coronavirus reporting guidelines...
 
Well, Florida has been called out enough times by national and world agencies on its fudging of positivity rates ( among many other discrepancies) and will now follow standards... on reporting positivity rates.
Previously reported below leading to change
" Florida’s official COVID-19 “positivity rate” is at odds with rates reported by the renowned tracker run by Johns Hopkins University. The official state rate is around 5 percent; Johns Hopkins says it’s closer to 12. "

Also Florida doesn't meet WHO reporting standards...even with now following reporting Standars on positivity rates...

But Florida is now withhold death reports, sometimes for as long as two months, according to our governor its to double check. According to CDC its obscuring tge true toll of tge virus.... and prevents timely response

" Florida Surgeon General implemented additional review process for fatalities attributed to COVID-19 to ensure data integrity" that's the official word.
How it translates tho is that Florida daily deaths now appear much lower. And now state official can decide when to trickle out the death numbers, spreading them out .

https://www.orlandosentinel.com/cor...0201030-nolcjsn2lbaxvoibkuxl64uohe-story.html

" Florida has obscured the true extent of its pandemic by using a misleading measure of positive cases to justify reopening schools and businesses, state data indicates. While the state has publicized that its positivity rate has regularly fallen below 5%, other health organizations are publishing data that shows the rate may be dramatically higher.

Testing has been declining statewide since the summer when there were about 54,400 daily average tests in July and about 32,000 in August. September’s daily average fell to 22,800, and in October it has been about 28,200. "
 
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The population of my town is 46,700 and in the last two weeks we've had 68 new cases. Doesn't say how many deaths but I know of one since the pandemic began.



Jim
 
GRRRRRREEEEEAAAAAT!!! WTF! THIS IS WHY IT IS SO IMPORTANT TO STOP IT FROM SPREADING-- the more spread, the more mutations. Whether or not some people are okay...
 
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GRRRRRREEEEEAAAAAT!!! WTF! THIS IS WHY IT IS SO IMPORTANT TO STOP IT FROM SPREADING-- the more spread, the more mutations. Whether or not some people are okay...
Yes, I posted an article a while back about the mink farm deaths in USA from coronavirus. I think it was over 10,000 mink deaths. People passed the virus to the mink farm. And looks like in Spain too.
https://www.sciencealert.com/coronavirus-is-killing-off-minks-in-their-thousands

I imagine most have had the original strain though-- it seems Denmark is the first one with minks spreading a new variety. But heck, this whole thing started from an animal and a person...1 person....ugh-- better start on vaccine 2 now bc, there were not many known case of the OG virus in December (and w over 200 cases of p-2-p transmission of this new one...)....this would be a pandemic on top of an already out of control pandemic
 
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Yes, I am worried. Over 132000 new cars in the United States today. I think that clearly shows that not wearing a mask and this is what happens...

Minks show clear signs of being sick or die from this virus. But how many different animal populations have humans spread this to, where they are just carriers? We know that cats of all types, house cats to tigers are also pretty susceptible ...this is a global pandemic, and humans interact with diverse collections of animals, zoos, farms, pets ect..its us spreading it into new animals now..

Anyway I hope we can pull it together
I hate how many people are losing their lives. How health care workers are suffering burnout more than the rest if us, and loosing their co workers to this virus.

I dont have links at my fingertips, but my reading shows 18-24 year olds around the globe are driving this pandemic. They have the highest numbers of positive cases by a factor of 10. Than any other age groups. It's a very social age, that likes to mingle. And its an age that we all felt death was far away . How do we reach that age group?
 
In terms of 18-20s spreading it, I HAVE NO DOUBTS. AT ALL.

On a semi-related note, I REALLY hate how people say kids at schools aren't producing outbreaks (when science proves their viral load is many times that of an adult's) and when schools opened and all of the sudden community spread BLEW TF UP...Here is why saying kids don't cause an issue is stupid:

1. kids don't usually get tested because they have "cold-like" or NO symptoms most of the time... (you need special considerations to test under 18 and most places refuse to test anyone without symptoms)
2. If an adult family member has covid and tests positive, no one tests the kid because they already know what is up (therefore, omitting data from the public pools). They either send the kid back (knowing they are asymptomatic and contagious, or quarantine for 14 days regardless of symptoms, or lack thereof )...and when no one tests, exposed staff and teachers are screwed (they cannot quarantine w/o taking a pay cut in most cases-- unless there is a verified link to school-exposure (e.g., a confirmed case))...BUT PARENTS DON'T TEST KIDS WHO SEEM HEALTHY or mildly ill-- and test sites discourage it!! :(
3. In many cases, principals and administrators have every reason to hide as much information as they can, so contact tracing falls apart when dealing with most students under 18.
.4. Teachers have to sign all of these waivers that basically imply that if they get it, it was there fault (e.g., "oh, so you were closer than 6 ft?!?!" -- neverminded the fact that perfectly normal teens will walk right up to you 50 times a day and no matter how much you ask them to step back, the 15 cumulative minutes over 24 hours is a serious issue in schools)...
5. If a kid is tested or suspected of COVID, they are out until they have a doctors note and a negative covid test, which can take days (or until 14 days pass). Not testing is like the world's worst loop-hole for killing everyone..but it is basically encouraged.
6. A temperature that causes a digital thermometer to beep (in a child) is ignored...even if they haven't been moving around and even if it has never happened, despite 2x daily checks...unless it is over 100.4..If I have a temp of 99..I am very sick...
7. These forehead thermometers are SOOO easily skewed by outdoor air temp etc-- we take them at the door and I am 96 daily...when I am not that cold...winter hits, and I bet I pull 94...93...
8. Even in schools, people do not wear masks properly and social distancing is nearly impossible...and kids run around licking everything with masks below their noses.

SO, these asymptomatic carriers go home (no or few symptoms) and spread to the community. Mom and dad can't miss work, and "junior" has a cold--- acceptable in past years...HECK, kids came in VERY ill all of the time in past years, and parents still didn't come get them until 4 or 5 o' clock sometimes...well past school hours...This does not work with COVID and it was already messed up then!
 
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My town is back in the "red"...everything is climbing in state :o




Jim
 
The winter trend is just about to begin. It's not going to be good...

"With North Dakota hospitals at 100% capacity, Burgum announces COVID-positive nurses can stay at work"

https://www.grandforksherald.com/ne...ounces-COVID-positive-nurses-can-stay-at-work

The graph is new daily case 7-day average, roughly normalized per million population from March to today. The trend is showing up in many states and I expect as more people huddle in indoor heated building, will get worse.
 

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I agree......
Florida doesn't release hospitalization rate publicly, but news investigation found ICU rate doubled, hospitalization rate up between 25%'50% in the last week. And doctors interviewed said all their extra spill over covid beds are full, and its younger and sicker 40 year old age range, thankfully most recover the doctors said....but have lingering lung issues
 
Looks like there is data from early July on here (select states in upper right): https://covidtracking.com/data/charts/daily-cases-and-currently-hospitalized

Thanks.
Florida will release info when sued , or exposed from national sources...its frustrating in Florida, I've documented in early pages, Florida fudging % positivity, delayed death reports and case numbers, doesn't meet World Health Standars for reporting on Corona, vern chastised by CDC, called out by John Hopkins.....
Before the pandemic I never would have thought Florida would be so shady .
 
Where I live, Iowa, cases are getting worse and worse daily! This second wave is horrible! I just got back to work after spending 2 weeks off work at home after testing positive. For reference I am 31 and I work at a car dealership with about 100 other employees total. it. It was a mild case for me with some fatigue and total loss of smell and taste but now that I'm recovered I feel a little thankful to have been only a mild case and to spend so much time with my pets at home. My husband, also 31, tested negative, never had symptoms and had to stay home with me. Still don't know how he managed that!
 
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