COVID-19 Virus

Re: Wuhan virus

So birds can not get this virus? I heard dogs can get it.

As stated within this huge Thread, Birds cannot get this Virus from Humans. There is Real World reports of dogs getting this Virus.


Im out of a job, and soon to be out of money. Im worried about my bird. If it comes down to it, and I cannot feed him anymore I dont know who would take them in.

I think there is a thread on this forum about bird rescues. Sorry to hear of your difficulties, it can be tough.
 
Re: Wuhan virus

So birds can not get this virus? I heard dogs can get it.

As stated within this huge Thread, Birds cannot get this Virus from Humans. There is Real World reports of dogs getting this Virus.


Im out of a job, and soon to be out of money. Im worried about my bird. If it comes down to it, and I cannot feed him anymore I dont know who would take them in.

What area you located and what do you specialize in, or can do as a trade? Maybe someone in your area can help you, or refer you to someone?

Depending on state and area mortgage, utilities even some cell phone providers and cable is delaying cutoffs and payment for 90 days if you call them, some automatically. So you may just have to worry about coming up for some money for food for the time being? If you know a trade, or specialized in something like technical, or medical you can become a essential worker as shortage right now. I know been working overtime lately keeping various gear going.

You sure target for jobs hospitals, doctor offices, shipping carriers, public safety services and places like Walmart, Meijer, delivery services and etc, as they need people badly. As people haven't been showing up to work due to fear of getting the virus themselves and everyone that needed for critical services are currently being overworked pulling in double shifts even. Depending on your skill set, you maybe able to do side work as well for others. You just have to adapt as this is going to be the norm for a while.
 
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This Post is likely to upset some, but may just as likely bring comfort to others.

Reality is: It takes time for the Masses to change their beliefs as seen by the slow rate in which the Masses started to take-on the lifestyle change that this Virus would require. One can see this in traveling back into the early Posts in this Thread. The frustration felt by those who saw the impending storm and loudly rang the Bell! Human Comfort Zones are a reality, and once set, it becomes very difficult to bring people out of their Zone.

Adjusting to Change: As the vast changes in the far reaches of each Hemisphere denotes the transition from the depth of Winter to the depth of Summer. The change is massive. At the Equator, the change is much less, but still note about. Point being, the closer one is to the extreme North and South the more excepting one must be to adjusting to the change.

If one excepts that this Virus is Seasonally Effected, it demands that we except that this Virus will fade in the Northern Hemisphere and that the Southern Hemisphere must begin preparing Now as the Virus is already in place and showing growth already.

What about Now: Washington State is Peaking in its out break. The early measures in that State are showing signs that the 15 steps to slowing this Virus does have an effect. New York State (as noted by its Governor) has tiny indicators that they 'maybe' in the very early stages of seeing a Peak in the next few weeks.

What does this mean: It means that today is not the day to stop following the 15 steps of slowing this Virus. But, it does mean that there is hope that like China (and no I do not fully believe their numbers) of parts of the Northern Hemisphere have and will begin seeing the Spring fade of this Virus. Yes, a bit early to celebrate and way too early to stop following the 15 steps. But, it is not too early to start believing in the full arrival of Spring.

Restarting a Huge Economy: It will takes weeks, possible months to restart the North American Economy and yes, I include Canada as part of this restart. The US Congress will complete their work with hope Friday of this week and Step #3 will be signed into Law. It will be a couple of weeks before the money flows into the Economy. It will likely match with the Spring Effect on the Virus for large parts of North America.

Pie in the Sky: I have a love for numbers, likely why I married a Math Professor. That love lends itself to understanding the Growth of this Virus as noted by my good friend Laurasea. A growth that the Masses could not believe until it shook them from their Comfort Zones. At this Point, I believe that we are is the early stages of seeing the numbers begin its transition the other way! Clearly in the future, but early enough to see it start its transition.

So What: It is important to understand that there are tens of million of Humans that are in deep fear and the current reality only continues to deepen that fear. We have a responsibility to each of those individuals to begin the early discussion that: The Sun Will Come Out Tomorrow! Life will return to Normal! This To Shall Pass! That Science and Pray does work! That there is solid reason to believe that inside of six months, which began in January, this 'CYCLE' of this Virus will complete!

Although I maybe a lone Wolf here and my saying this will upset many! It needs to be said and if it results in the in flight of arrows, so be it. It is one of the excepted dangers of stepping forward...

Steven (SailBoat)
26, March 2010

Humor: All Grammatical Errors Where Computer Generated! :D
 
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Africa has many problems with corruption, still has some war Lord leadership in areas, many poor areas, and under served areas.. also depends on tourist in a lot of areas....

I have noticed in recent days they are reporting more cases. South Africa has nearly a 1000 cases now.

Also Florida has been in 80s and 90s we are now 6th in the states for total cases, I don't think summer or warmer weather will slow this down this year. Next year or later it may take on a more seasonal trend, due to more factors than temps. I think seasonal influenza drops in summer because schools are closed,not because of temps. (IMH0)

Also while it seems fast , this virus is slow, 2 weeks to develop symptoms, another week for those symptoms in some to become severe enough to need hospital care. Then those that are in the hospital are in for weeks, before either recovery or death. ( Yes some die quickly)

My freinds this is a snowball rolling down hill. I'm sorry to say the avalanche is yet to come. But our social distance, and stay at home can have the biggest impact! This virus spreads between people, it needs people to spread, it's not crawled down our street. Keep up the good work people, all if us are so very Important in stopping the spread.

This is a good dashboard, as you scroll down does regions
https://ncov2019.live/data
 
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This Post is likely to upset some, but may just as likely bring comfort to others.

Reality is: It takes time for the Masses to change their beliefs as seen by the slow rate in which the Masses started to take-on the lifestyle change that this Virus would require. One can see this in traveling back into the early Posts in this Thread. The frustration felt by those who saw the impending storm and loudly rang the Bell! Human Comfort Zones are a reality, and once set, it becomes very difficult to bring people out of their Zone.

Adjusting to Change: As the vast changes in the far reaches of each Hemisphere denotes the transition from the depth of Winter to the depth of Summer. The change is massive. At the Equator, the change is much less, but still note about. Point being, the closer one is to the extreme North and South the more excepting one must be to adjusting to the change.

If one excepts that this Virus is Seasonally Effected, it demands that we except that this Virus will fade in the Northern Hemisphere and that the Southern Hemisphere must begin preparing Now as the Virus is already in place and showing growth already.

What about Now: Washington State is Peaking in its out break. The early measures in that State are showing signs that the 15 steps to slowing this Virus does have an effect. New York State (as noted by its Governor) has tiny indicators that they 'maybe' in the very early stages of seeing a Peak in the next few weeks.

What does this mean: It means that today is not the day to stop following the 15 steps of slowing this Virus. But, it does mean that there is hope that like China (and no I do not fully believe their numbers) of parts of the Northern Hemisphere have and will begin seeing the Spring fade of this Virus. Yes, a bit early to celebrate and way too early to stop following the 15 steps. But, it is not too early to start believing in the full arrival of Spring.

Restarting a Huge Economy: It will takes weeks, possible months to restart the North American Economy and yes, I include Canada as part of this restart. The US Congress will complete their work with hope Friday of this week and Step #3 will be signed into Law. It will be a couple of weeks before the money flows into the Economy. It will likely match with the Spring Effect on the Virus for large parts of North America.

Pie in the Sky: I have a love for numbers, likely why I married a Math Professor. That love lends itself to understanding the Growth of this Virus as noted by my good friend Laurasea. A growth that the Masses could not believe until it shook them from their Comfort Zones. At this Point, I believe that we are is the early stages of seeing the numbers begin its transition the other way! Clearly in the future, but early enough to see it start its transition.

So What: It is important to understand that there are tens of million of Humans that are in deep fear and the current reality only continues to deepen that fear. We have a responsibility each of those individuals to begin the early discussion that: The Sun Will Come Out Tomorrow! Live will return to Normal! This To Shall Pass! That Science and Pray does work! That there is solid reason to believe that inside of six months, this 'CYCLE' of this Virus will occur!

Although I maybe a lone Wolf here and my saying this will upset many! It needs to be said and if it results in the in flight of arrows, so be it. It is one of the excepted dangers of stepping forward...

Steven (SailBoat)
26, March 2010

Humor: All Grammatical Errors Where Computer Generated! :D

Yep pretty much in a nutshell. You took the words out of my mouth.
 
Re: Wuhan virus

So birds can not get this virus? I heard dogs can get it.

As stated within this huge Thread, Birds cannot get this Virus from Humans. There is Real World reports of dogs getting this Virus.


Im out of a job, and soon to be out of money. Im worried about my bird. If it comes down to it, and I cannot feed him anymore I dont know who would take them in.

I’m so sorry to hear this - where are you located? Perhaps there is someone on here who could foster your birds if things get really rough, until things get back on track? Just thoughts....I know I’d be happy to help if someone found themselves in a hard spot (and I see that fundraising is not an option on the forum).
 
The Southern Hemisphere as a group has not been hit as hard as the Northern Hemisphere. There are several beliefs as to why. One is that this Virus maybe Seasonal in its effect. At the US National update yesterday, Dr. F stated that he believed that based on what they are seeing in the Southern Hemisphere ( the lower number of cases ) that as the Northern Hemisphere may see a decrease in cases as Summer (the Seasonal Effect) sets in, it implies that this Virus will return this Fall in the Northern Hemisphere as this Virus sets in place to cycle between the Hemispheres.



yes we have been told exactly this, this is one of the reasons why the recent emphasis is on delaying the spread. Of course, it seems like potential drugs may become available at the end of the year too. Fingers crossed this is rushed though. I believe one such drug has bypassed testing on animals and gone straight to human testing, cant remember but that's either in the UK or the US.



We started doing human vaccine trials in Washington a couple of weeks ago.


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Re: Wuhan virus

So birds can not get this virus? I heard dogs can get it.

As stated within this huge Thread, Birds cannot get this Virus from Humans. There is Real World reports of dogs getting this Virus.


Im out of a job, and soon to be out of money. Im worried about my bird. If it comes down to it, and I cannot feed him anymore I dont know who would take them in.



Look into getting unemployment. Many states are relaxing the rules and waiving waiting periods.


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Well said SailBoat, I believe there is a hell of a lot more that needs to be said....... but that's for another time and place!

The sun is shining and its stopped raining 'finally' in the uk, this always lifts spirits. The numbers are going to get huge in the next week or two, but with measures in place, within 3 weeks we will 'hopefully' see the curves fall or at least level off. This hopefully will not be the time to relax but actually be more assertive in our actions to beat this thing.
 
I want CDC back in the forefront.
Thank you Dr. Messonnier for your early warnings!!!

" Dr. Nancy Messonnier, the director of the National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases at the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention,. At noon on Feb. 25, just she told reporters on a conference call that life in the United States was about to change.

“The disruption to everyday life might be severe,” she said. Schools might have to close, conferences could be canceled, businesses might make employees work from home. She had told her own children, she said, to prepare for “significant disruption to our lives.”

Dr. Messonnier, you called it, thank you for your truth.
 
This Post is likely to upset some, but may just as likely bring comfort to others.


Although I maybe a lone Wolf here and my saying this will upset many! It needs to be said and if it results in the in flight of arrows, so be it. It is one of the excepted dangers of stepping forward...

Steven (SailBoat)
26, March 2010

Humor: All Grammatical Errors Where Computer Generated! :D
We and the world desperately need more people like you to speak the reality of the situation in a calm and rational manner, and with some hope.

Thank You, Steven. And please keep on posting. ;)
 
My freinds this is a snowball rolling down hill. I'm sorry to say the avalanche is yet to come. o
https://ncov2019.live/data


I don't know, you could be right. Then again none of us really knows but things could take a wide turn for the better and I certainly hope so for the sake of everyone. Things do happen that we don't expect. After all it's the captain of the ship that's in control.
 
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Re: Wuhan virus

As stated within this huge Thread, Birds cannot get this Virus from Humans. There is Real World reports of dogs getting this Virus.


Im out of a job, and soon to be out of money. Im worried about my bird. If it comes down to it, and I cannot feed him anymore I don't know who would take them in.

Maybe Parrot forums could start a "go fund me" that they could run (having all the stats on peoples join dates and posts) where we could help as a group those that need assistance; (for their parrots, food/care, not thinking rent etc.) This is the time for things like that. I don't want to send someone a check but if we created a relief fund from members for members...I'd be on board to donate to something like that.

Just a thought.

That is sweet of you. I should have made it more clear. Im not soliciting checks. I just am worried about the future, like near everyone else. I wondered how likely people were to bringing in birds froom others who cant care for them, now, when everyone is afraid of covid 19. I know they havent found it in birds, but that likley doesnt stop the general fear that is out there.
This **** just had to happen when I finally was able to get and work two jobs and was making some headway. Now it is kaput.

Ive often wondered why pet owners cant start a calling tree of help for needy people in their areas. And branch out, eventually. Like a calling tree of those in need. Leaving a bag of food on a porch or a destination is pretty lowrisk, right now, too. A lot of older people have got to be hit more by this than anyone, I would think.

Because I am social isolating, I a trying to keep a lid on my anxiety. Im rationing my food, but I cannot ration my pets' food. I jut naturally go to the worst case scenario. What if I run out of money at some point. What if I die, what will happen to them.

This latter thing is going to be happening, and where will all those birds and dogs (and cats and etc) go? The system is overloaded as it is. I wish we could all pull together as one and help each other out, like we did in the past, ie WW2. The social isolation factor and fear though...it will make it hard.

People have really grown rather selfish in this country as it is, since WW2. Not all; but too many. It's part of the cultural thinking, and I dont think many will rally past this. A few generations know nothing at all about personal sacrifice, pulling together and thinking outside of their own wants. It's not even in their consciousness; theyve had their parents do everything for them and encountered no hardships. I really hope I am horribly wrong about this.
 
My freinds this is a snowball rolling down hill. I'm sorry to say the avalanche is yet to come. o
https://ncov2019.live/data


I don't know, you could be right. Then again none of us really knows but things could take a wide turn for the better and I certainly hope so for the sake of everyone. Things do happen that we don't expect. After all it's the captain of the ship that's in control.

The thing is, people spend aing time on ventilator, sometimes weeks.....there starts to be an accumulation factor... . We haven't gotten there yet with our current cases....and we are still in rapid spread and growth of cases, many people won't feel sick for weeks. Social distances us the most important thing

From New York
" Mr. Cuomo said the increasing death rate is partly a result of older and weaker people staying on ventilators for 20 days or longer. “The longer you are on a ventilator, the more probability of a bad outcome,” he said. “We’ve had people on for a very long time and they haven’t gotten better, and they are passing away.”
 
Some people are selfish and likely will be weeded out in time, as most those selfish people can't survive without depending on others to do their work and likely have no skills, or very little. A lot of people are pulling together as well as we need to. In a barter system those that are selfish and don't have skills or willing to help provide services, or items, or help in some form, or another will be left behind.
 
Re: Wuhan virus

As stated within this huge Thread, Birds cannot get this Virus from Humans. There is Real World reports of dogs getting this Virus.


Im out of a job, and soon to be out of money. Im worried about my bird. If it comes down to it, and I cannot feed him anymore I dont know who would take them in.

What area you located and what do you specialize in, or can do as a trade? Maybe someone in your area can help you, or refer you to someone?

Depending on state and area mortgage, utilities even some cell phone providers and cable is delaying cutoffs and payment for 90 days if you call them, some automatically. So you may just have to worry about coming up for some money for food for the time being? If you know a trade, or specialized in something like technical, or medical you can become a essential worker as shortage right now. I know been working overtime lately keeping various gear going.

You sure target for jobs hospitals, doctor offices, shipping carriers, public safety services and places like Walmart, Meijer, delivery services and etc, as they need people badly. As people haven't been showing up to work due to fear of getting the virus themselves and everyone that needed for critical services are currently being overworked pulling in double shifts even. Depending on your skill set, you maybe able to do side work as well for others. You just have to adapt as this is going to be the norm for a while.

Im am calling everywhere I can in order to put off the bills, yes. I think they are offering unemployment here and I am going to have to try.

Im trying like hell to find a remote job. I have a college degree, and my resume shows me as a dedicated lifelong worker, but I dont think I have any skills that pays; no skills, no trade. I always said Id do phone sex before unemployment, but thats a quaint job nowadays, Im sure.

Ironically I might be able to teach English to kids in China. I dont know if that is a scam or not though. All of the remote jobs I see are either a scam/slavelabor or they want an outrageous set of qualifications for doing crappy jobs like customer service or sales.
 
The thing is, people spend aing time on ventilator, sometimes weeks.....there starts to be an accumulation factor... . We haven't gotten there yet with our current cases....and we are still in rapid spread and growth of cases, many people won't feel sick for weeks. Social distances us the most important thing

From New York
" Mr. Cuomo said the increasing death rate is partly a result of older and weaker people staying on ventilators for 20 days or longer. “The longer you are on a ventilator, the more probability of a bad outcome,” he said. “We’ve had people on for a very long time and they haven’t gotten better, and they are passing away.”

Correct. People dont know a lot of this because they fear to look for and face the facts. Horrible things like this always get exacerbated becaue people look to people who know nothing but seem to have it together and be in charge. And most of them talk bull**** because they themselves are scared to face the reality, or too greedy to care.

A most deplorable and frightening thing is that because these large conglomerate health systems have been allowed to grow, wipe out smaller and rural hospitals, and had business consultants run them like cutthroat businesses to make max profits, the hospital system and thier staff are screwed, right now. The call from above was to ignore, deny, deny and deny some more. It'll all come out after this passes, and it will shame this country. Drastic changes need to happen in this country.
 
My freinds this is a snowball rolling down hill. I'm sorry to say the avalanche is yet to come. o
https://ncov2019.live/data


I don't know, you could be right. Then again none of us really knows but things could take a wide turn for the better and I certainly hope so for the sake of everyone. Things do happen that we don't expect. After all it's the captain of the ship that's in control.

The thing is, people spend aing time on ventilator, sometimes weeks.....there starts to be an accumulation factor... . We haven't gotten there yet with our current cases....and we are still in rapid spread and growth of cases, many people won't feel sick for weeks. Social distances us the most important thing

From New York
" Mr. Cuomo said the increalis a very l well this sing death rate is partly a result of older and weaker people staying on ventilators for 20 days or longer. “The longer you are on a ventilator, the more probability of a bad outcome,” he said. “We’ve had people on for a very long time and they haven’t gotten better, and they are passing away.”

Thanks for your input, I know full well this is a very serious and deadly situation. I guess I'm just looking for a tiny bit of light in a dark alley,
 
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Re: Wuhan virus

So birds can not get this virus? I heard dogs can get it.

As stated within this huge Thread, Birds cannot get this Virus from Humans. There is Real World reports of dogs getting this Virus.


Im out of a job, and soon to be out of money. Im worried about my bird. If it comes down to it, and I cannot feed him anymore I dont know who would take them in.

Absolute worse case scenario, basic human foods can be fed to parrots for a period of time, providing sustenance. Companion animals are unsung heroes, enhancing our mental health. If you have a nearby animal shelter, they may be a source of basic bird food at no charge.
 

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