Jordan is scared...

[Jordan7]

Can you please give us an update on Jordan. Cannot stop thinking about him.

I'm wondering top

Hey guys,
Sorry, i did not see the posts earlier.

I think Jordan is doing better.
I followed all doctor's advices and i think Jordan is starting getting better.
He started flying also and play with me. Feeding him 5-6 times a day the formula along with some vegetables.
Still i have not seen him eating seeds alone, i saw him drinking water but he still eats formula.
I am planning to visit the doctor again in some days to confirm his progress.
He went to 98gr, this was 5-6 days ago. Then i checked the weight again and he was 94gr and then again around 100gr at some point. When the doctor put him on the scale was 110gr but this was after eating. So the first time i checked his weight was 94 - thats why i am saying he gained some weight actually.
It is not very easy to check his weight everyday as in the morning when i feed him it is not very easy to put him in the scale. Sometimes he is ok, sometimes not so i dont want to force / scare him as our relationship is getting better. He allows me to touch him and play together.

He eats carrots and zucchini with pleasure, some lettuce too. He does not like millet for some reason - maybe still too young.
I will start giving him pellets in one week or so to see how it goes.


Sending you some photos to see his progress - and maybe give any other advice

Thank you both so much for your concern.

 

[osklvste56]

He's looking good. Thanks for the update! I really wouldn't worry about millet. Some birds find it addicting. He's eating carrots, so maybe a little cooked mushed sweet potato for extra calories.

 

[Jordan7]

He's looking good. Thanks for the update! I really wouldn't worry about millet. Some birds find it addicting. He's eating carrots, so maybe a little cooked mushed sweet potato for extra calories.

Thanks i will try mushed sweet potato!
one quick question, when i put my hand-fingers close to him he tries to bite them also he tried to bite my ear while he was sitting on my shoulder - but sometimes he does it hard so it is a bit painful.
Any idea why is he doing that?and if it is not considered as normal / good behavior how to stop him doing it?

 

[osklvste56]

Birds do everything with their beak. Their parents discourage biting behavior. Find artificials here on shunning. It is the best and easiest way to discourage this biting. Especially since he is so young. I as a a retired ICU, ER, RN have never been in favor of a beak near eyes, ears, nose. I've seen accidents from startled tame and friendly parrots. That's my opinion there's lots here who disagree. I suggest shunning to get him trustworthy before the shoulder. My CAG, is always nibbling and 'tasting' my hands, wrists and arms. That doesn't mean she won't give a nip or two. A shunning and she's behaving again.

 

[AMD99]

thank you for the update! he is adorable!

 

[Jordan7]

Hi guys, Jordan in general doing well, he is eating pellets now - i stopped the formula
He is in good mood in general, eating well and play.

Only problem is that he dont want to stay in his cage, i have put several toys inside but when i put him in he starts climbing and gets very energetic cause he wants to get out.
And the thing is that I think he is chewing his tail feathers.


I am not sure if he is stressed from this and chewing them or something else is happening.

I would appreciate some help.
Other than that he is active.

He is around 4 months now.
When i got him he had a really long tail feather that now it is missing.

 

[osklvste56]

I was wondering how he was doing. Glad to hear he's fine. An expert on babies would have to tell you if it's chewing. He's actually looking good. Don't forget those veggies. Or you'll be in the how with I get my bird to eat club..

 

[osklvste56]

Did you ever talk to where you got him from? To see what kind of environment he was used to. Asking out of curiosity. Parrots have long memories.

 

[AMD99]

Thank you for the update! Sounds like he is doing well with the exception of his tail feathers? Can't tell from the picture if he is chewing them, or if he is banging them on something? Are you giving him any spray baths? Those will help with his new feathers coming in.

 

[Jordan7]

I was wondering how he was doing. Glad to hear he's fine. An expert on babies would have to tell you if it's chewing. He's actually looking good. Don't forget those veggies. Or you'll be in the how with I get my bird to eat club..

Yeah, he is eating also veggies and some fruits. He likes them much so it was a bit hard to get him to eat pellets but he is ok with pellets too now.
Regarding the environemnt, i think he was with many babies and adult parrots and i believe he misses them a lot.
I had inside the cage a small mirror and i was giving him the mobile sometimes to watch other ringnecks and he is still obsessed with the mobile. But i took out the mirror and i stopped giving him the mobile but i am wondering if this made him anxious. Cause he was siting in the mirror when he was inside the cage and was calmer.
But someone told me that the mirror is not good for parrots.
But maybe Jordan misses his company. When i went to the breeder he had them all together so maybe he misses that.
Maybe i put the mirror back? what do you think?

I really want to get one more for company but it is not very easy to get a second one at the moment.

Thank you for the update! Sounds like he is doing well with the exception of his tail feathers? Can't tell from the picture if he is chewing them, or if he is banging them on something? Are you giving him any spray baths? Those will help with his new feathers coming in.

I tried several times to give him spray baths but he does not want. i put a bowl also near him but he does not get in. I tried to bath him a bit with my hand and he was frustrated. Only he puts his head inside a small piscine i have inside the cage.

Also he is very attached to me and when i am at home he always want to be outside with me and when i put him on the cage he keeps trying to get out.
And when i am not home probably he is getting stressed or something.

I will take him to the vet in one month or so but i really wanted your opinion.

Thanks so much both for your replies, i appreciate it!!

 

[AMD99]

Mirrors are a huge controversary, some say yes others no. I am with the no group. But other ways to keep him company and we did this for my tiel Baby 18 years ago, was to play bird songs for him. You can get outside, inside etc. I know someone who has a ringneck and they found youtube videos for their ringneck and apparantly he loves listening to them. As for the spray baths.....well....you will have to get him used to them. It helps to much with the new feathers. Start slow with him....a few seconds at a time. Give him a treat to let him know he did good. After a while he will realize how good it feels. You are doing great by the way!

 

[osklvste56]

Mirrors are like the pellet controversy. I'm on the fence. A parrot like a person and can become obsessed with themselves. This can lead to undesirable behavior. So a mirror is bad. Others enjoy playing with them. Then walk away. So then it's not bad. I honestly don't know about spray bottles. Here no innocent spray bottles in the open are safe. They magically appear on Nameliss seek and destroy list. She just doesn't like them. She does love watching movies. She's especially in love with old time B/W ganster and comedies. Listening to audio books is preferable over music. But she's a verbal motor beak. New puppies brought home a warm hot water bottle in a towel with a ticking clock. What about something warm very low on outside of cage sleep area. With a noise maker. Radio or something barely audible to human ears. If cage is elevated then under it. He can move away from it if too warm.

 

[Inger]

First about mirrors - I had an IRN briefly. I did literally everything wrong and I don't talk about it much - he already had problems when he came to me and I didn't know the first thing about helping him. I'm a whole different kind of parrot mom now. But one time somehow PeeWee got into the China cabinet, which had a mirror on the back. After that first time, he never wanted to be anywhere else. All he wanted to do was admire himself and say peekaboo and tell himself he was a good bird. When we took him out, he would scream nonstop. So, for obvious reasons, I am firmly "no mirrors."

As for baths, there are so many ways birds might like to do it, and it can change throughout their lives. The bird I have now (Bumble, who is living her best life) would ask for a bath by saying "drink drink"
And then would sit on my hand while I ran the faucet in the kitchen sink. I had to cup my hands to make a little bowl and she would take sips from the faucet and barely put her head in it and then turn around and barely put her tail in it and then she would dip into my hand-bowl a little and eventually she would want me to use a spray bottle and get her soaking wet and sometimes she wanted to sit directly under the running water. She'd let me know she was done by flying up onto my head.

In the last few years, the spray bottle is mostly an enemy. She will still take sips and dips from the faucet, but now I can only use my hands to sprinkle her with water. She also has a little fountain (marketed as a cat water bowl) that she likes - again she takes little sips and then barely puts in her head and tail and I can sprinkle her. And sometimes at bedtime when I'm getting her food and water bowls ready, she'll hop onto the water bowl (with icy cold water in it) and do the tiny dip routine there. Yesterday I thought she needed a bath and put all three options out for her and she did a little bit of each and even let the spray bottle give her a few good spritzes.

Some people find that their birds will go crazy bathing when they run a vacuum cleaner (not mine - the vacuum is another enemy and must be screamed at the entire time it's on). Some people find that their birds like to roll around and play in wet greens (lettuce, kale, etc). Some people take their birds into the shower with them (be careful - this is not your shower! No cleaning yourself because soap/shampoo/ etc could be dangerous. Keep the water cool, not running at full blast, and not directly on your bird unless he chooses to go into the stream himself). They make shower perches for it.

So my point is, if your baby doesn't like the spray bottle, don't force it. There are lots of ways to get them to bathe and you might have to try several before you find the one he likes. Don't give up.

 

[Jordan7]

Hey, thanks all for the replies, I appreciate it.

I tried with the spray yesterday and he was furious, flying around, then I went a bit more far and sprayed him and it was better.
The feathers look indeed better today after the spray. I will try again in 2 days or so with treats.

The main problem is that he does not want to stay in the cage at all - apart from the sleeping time.
And today he got angry when i took him out after much time complaining inside and then i put my finger to step up and he was making an angry sound, like murmur
Then i put some peach on my hand and he came straight away to my finder to eat. In general, after that he was ok outside for several hours, stepping up, playing etc. He does not stop coming to the mobile when i have it in my hand so I think that maybe i can try to put the mirror back at least. He was calmer with the mirror inside and was not frustrated inside the cage. He was sitting infront of the mirror when he was inside and sometimes he was sleeping there but he was cool coming out and play.

And he wants to be with me, he does not leave me at all, he is always on me when he is outside - playing, sitting on me.

So when i return home he expects to go out and hang out with me - which I am doing it anyway - but i can not do anything else anymore but play with him
But well, at least he is learning fast and he knows when i say "don't do that" - so he controls himself a bit and stops biting.

First time having a parrot as a pet - very interesting animals and so smart.

 

[Jordan7]

Regarding the bird songs and the music, he loves music in general but in the morning I am working and my family is with him. So he spends sometime with them out of the cage until i return but it's not easy to have music all the time, only when i get back.

I put back the mirror and it did its miracle it seems. he stays calm in front - but went to eat normally inside the cage etc.
Maybe its working, it keeps him company. I will monitor him the next days and see.
If he stops fighting inside the cage to get out and acts normally I will keep the mirror inside.

 

[HarleY 0647]

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