Kakariki health

Ody

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It's been 3.5 years now that we have been housing a kakariki who landed in our garden on a winter day. Clearly escaped somewhere and despite posting the information out there, nobody ever came calling for him. Never thought we would have a bird but we soon adapted and having gotten a small cage for him after his immediate arrival, we soon started leaving him to explore his surroundings and eventually also got him a bigger cage catering for all his needs. Since then we have not looked back and thoroughly enjoyed Ody's company. He's not hand-reared but became very close to us coming to sit on our head or shoulders and so often on top of the desktop screen while working at home. A true acrobat as well they way he would fly around in the house (the living room has a very high ceiling so he got lucky there) from one floor to the other.

Then in March this year he suddenly showed a different behaviour. He suddenly wouldn't come much out of his cage anymore and would sit a lot inside not looking comfortable with his feathers all puffed. He also was clearly having balancing problems. He would often come on the table and run around or eat from our plates but now he would simply fall or trip over. Thought it would pass but eventually we took him to the VET. Blood tests showed a bacterial infection and 10 days of antibiotics helped him through it. After awhile he unfortunately seem to relapse and again I took him to the VET (university bird clinic) where again they took blood tests but they VET didn't look too sure, was kind of negative about his outlook and we ended up giving antibiotics now extending the period up to over 2 weeks.

He then was really fine for couple of months until again he changed a lot, now also falling through flying midair. He now spends most of his time in his cage as he is barely able to fly. We help him as much as we can but he does not resemble the bird he used to be in any way.

What really stands out is to problems he is having with his legs as he has lost all form of balance. He is able to walk but often falls over. His flying ability had stayed intact however, until recently. I also started thinking whether climbing around in their cages is not affecting the feet of bird too often. He always seemed to enjoy exploring and going around in his cage but maybe that has taken its toll as in nature they wouldn't put that much pressure on their feet and toes?

We have tried another period of antibiotics but it did not seem to bring about any change. We do no longer want to stress him with a VET visit nor make him undergo any more intrusive examinations (the blood sample taking is already quite painful!). We do not know how old he is but always assumed rather young. We're now thinking that maybe he is older than we thought and he has entered old age.

Still very much wondering about what could have caused the rapid decline however and what might be the explanations or underlying causes. If anybody thinks he or she has a clue, thanks for sharing.
 
It's been 3.5 years now that we have been housing a kakariki who landed in our garden on a winter day. Clearly escaped somewhere and despite posting the information out there, nobody ever came calling for him. Never thought we would have a bird but we soon adapted and having gotten a small cage for him after his immediate arrival, we soon started leaving him to explore his surroundings and eventually also got him a bigger cage catering for all his needs. Since then we have not looked back and thoroughly enjoyed Ody's company. He's not hand-reared but became very close to us coming to sit on our head or shoulders and so often on top of the desktop screen while working at home. A true acrobat as well they way he would fly around in the house (the living room has a very high ceiling so he got lucky there) from one floor to the other.

Then in March this year he suddenly showed a different behaviour. He suddenly wouldn't come much out of his cage anymore and would sit a lot inside not looking comfortable with his feathers all puffed. He also was clearly having balancing problems. He would often come on the table and run around or eat from our plates but now he would simply fall or trip over. Thought it would pass but eventually we took him to the VET. Blood tests showed a bacterial infection and 10 days of antibiotics helped him through it. After awhile he unfortunately seem to relapse and again I took him to the VET (university bird clinic) where again they took blood tests but they VET didn't look too sure, was kind of negative about his outlook and we ended up giving antibiotics now extending the period up to over 2 weeks.

He then was really fine for couple of months until again he changed a lot, now also falling through flying midair. He now spends most of his time in his cage as he is barely able to fly. We help him as much as we can but he does not resemble the bird he used to be in any way.

What really stands out is to problems he is having with his legs as he has lost all form of balance. He is able to walk but often falls over. His flying ability had stayed intact however, until recently. I also started thinking whether climbing around in their cages is not affecting the feet of bird too often. He always seemed to enjoy exploring and going around in his cage but maybe that has taken its toll as in nature they wouldn't put that much pressure on their feet and toes?

We have tried another period of antibiotics but it did not seem to bring about any change. We do no longer want to stress him with a VET visit nor make him undergo any more intrusive examinations (the blood sample taking is already quite painful!). We do not know how old he is but always assumed rather young. We're now thinking that maybe he is older than we thought and he has entered old age.

Still very much wondering about what could have caused the rapid decline however and what might be the explanations or underlying causes. If anybody thinks he or she has a clue, thanks for sharing.
Welcome to the forums, @Ody. Thank you for taking in this little one, he is lucky to have found someone to care for him the way you do!

Did the vet actually tell you which bacterium he suspected your kak had? Some of them can get very nasty and be pretty persistent, and quite a common one is psittacosis. It's estimated that one in eight pet parrots here in Australia carry it, and the numbers are probably similar elsewhere, and it requires a much longer period of treatment with doxycycline to kill off the organism at every stage of it's life cycle. It is also now a lot more difficult to diagnose, since the only lab in the world that made the most reliable test for it ceased production just over two years ago, and to my knowledge neither they nor anybody else has started making it again, thus leaving us with only a PCR test that cannot detect it if it's not active when the blood is drawn for testing. My princess parrot Peachie had it when I first got her - my (now retired 😭) avian vet ran two PCR tests on her which both came back "none detected" but she was clearly quite ill, and in his opinion with his over 30 years experience he was sure it was still lurking and causing her trouble so we embarked on the gold standard treatment, which is a course of doxy injections over six weeks, one per week and it has to be done on the same day each week or it may not successfully treat the infection. If administered any other way, such as syringing directly into the beak for example, then the period of treatment is 45 days - personally I preferred the vet to carry out the injections because then I knew it would be done right and I am VERY lucky in that the clinic is literally 5 minutes drive from my house. Thankfully the injections worked for my Peachie and she is now happy and healthy. Your kak may not have had psittacosis in particular, but if all of the organisms are not dealt with they can repopulate and become resistant which may explain why your bird did not recover so well this time around.

Of course his age may be an issue now too, since even vets can find it very hard to judge a bird's age once they take on adult plumage. There are a number of conditions that may explain the deterioration you're seeing with his ability to walk or fly, it may be age-related or neurological or a combination of factors, and I quite agree with you that it's a very difficult call to make as to whether you want to subject him to more invasive testing which may cause him more pain or distress. It may be worth a call to your vet to see what they think, or maybe find another avian specialist and call them to ask for a second opinion? But in any event, your little one made the right choice when he landed in your garden, and I'm so glad that you found us! :)
 
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Hi LaManuka,
Thanks so much for your beautiful reply. It actually convinced us to go find a second opinion of another vet. The vet we've visited twice did not tell us anything on the specific bacterium. I think they only looked at the infection parameters in the blood which were high. Thanks again, will keep you posted after I find and visit another bird vet.
 
Hi LaManuka,
Thanks so much for your beautiful reply. It actually convinced us to go find a second opinion of another vet. The vet we've visited twice did not tell us anything on the specific bacterium. I think they only looked at the infection parameters in the blood which were high. Thanks again, will keep you posted after I find and visit another bird vet.
You're most welcome, @Ody! I've linked up the following list of avian vets for you, perhaps it may help you find another specialist...


And I'm sending my very best wishes to you and Ody 💖💖💖
 

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