COVID-19 Virus

FYI-- based on that blood pressure hypothesis, calcium channel blockers do not appear to have the same (hypothesized) negative impacts as ACE inhibitors, which is why my doctor agreed to change mine to a calcium channel blocker...kind of like..meh, why not?

Because I am on 2 different blood pressure Rx I looked my meds up.
nether is an ACE inhibitor. One is a bata-blocker abd I don't recall what the other is.

A great tool for checking the details of a medication and the one I use (since I no longer have access to a PRD) is RXlist.com

wes
 
FYI-- based on that blood pressure hypothesis, calcium channel blockers do not appear to have the same (hypothesized) negative impacts as ACE inhibitors, which is why my doctor agreed to change mine to a calcium channel blocker...kind of like..meh, why not?

Because I am on 2 different blood pressure Rx I looked my meds up.
nether is an ACE inhibitor. One is a bata-blocker abd I don't recall what the other is.

A great tool for checking the details of a medication and the one I use (since I no longer have access to a PRD) is RXlist.com

wes

The original hypothesis was published my "The Lancet": "Are patients with hypertension and diabetes mellitus at increased risk for COVID-19 infection?"-- ARBs were also hypothesized to interfere.

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanres/article/PIIS2213-2600(20)30116-8/fulltext
 
The dangers of this Monstrous Virus so very well stated by Laurasea: its Highly Contagious nature and its love of large gathering of Humans and older people. In addition, the more time around, the greater the volume, and the closer one is to the Virus mass, the greater the likelihood of becoming infected. Hence, the greater number of people who become infected. As a result, larger cities with international airports became infected first and it has spread out from there.

- So, is it contagious? Yes, Highly! The greater your exposure, the greater the likelihood of you getting it.
- Does Social Distancing work? Yes, and the great one distances, the better.
- Does Washing one's hands work? Yes, and washing anytime you are out and about, bring stuff into your home, etc, etc, etc...
- Do Face Masks work? That depends highly on what you are using them for and what type you have and most importantly, are you wearing it correct. If you are sick or believe you are, Yes, please wear a face mask! If you are visiting areas of high likelihood of being in contact with people (stores, etc.), Yes, wear a face mask.
- Will a scarf or other mid to light weight cloth work to protect me? As above, it will depend on where you are going and the volume of people you will come in close contact with! Also, thread count matters! The moderate thread count with a moderate weave, like cloth diapers is a good example of the cloth that you should consider. It allows a reasonable transfer of air and a reasonable ability to trap contaminates. A High thread count with a tight weave would clearly catch more contamination, but would greatly limit your ability to breath, which last time I checked that is important!

Be smart, be safe!!!
 
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The dangers of this Monstrous Virus so very well stated by Laurasea: its Highly Contagious nature and its love of large gathering of Humans and older people. In addition, the more time around, the greater the volume, and the closer one is to the Virus mass, the greater the likelihood of becoming infected. Hence, the greater number of people who become infected. As a result, larger cities with international airports became infected first and it has spread out from there.

- So, is it contagious? Yes, Highly! The greater your exposure, the greater the likelihood of you getting it.
- Does Social Distancing work? Yes, and the great one distances, the better.
- Does Washing one's hands work? Yes, and washing anytime you are out and about, bring stuff into your home, etc, etc, etc...
- Do Face Masks work? That depends highly on what you are using them for and what type you have and most importantly, are you wearing it correct. If you are sick or believe you are, Yes, please wear a face mask! If you are visiting areas of high likelihood of being in contact with people (stores, etc.), Yes, wear a face mask.
- Will a scarf or other mid to light weight cloth work to protect me? As above, it will depend on where you are going and the volume of people you will come in close contact with! Also, thread count matters! The moderate thread count with a moderate weave, like cloth diapers is a good example of the cloth that you should consider. It allows a reasonable transfer of air and a reasonable ability to trap contaminates. A High thread count with a tight weave would clearly catch more contamination, but would greatly limit your ability to breath, which last time I checked is important!

Be smart, be safe!!!

CDC is now recommending face coverings for all people in public in the US. They may reduce the spread of the virus by preventing it from shooting out so far when people breathe, and if we all wear them, there will hopefully be a "herd" impact where asymptomatic people are less able to run around spreading it as easily (thinking they are "well").
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/prevent-getting-sick/cloth-face-cover.html
 
The dangers of this Monstrous Virus so very well stated by Laurasea: its Highly Contagious nature and its love of large gathering of Humans and older people. In addition, the more time around, the greater the volume, and the closer one is to the Virus mass, the greater the likelihood of becoming infected. Hence, the greater number of people who become infected. As a result, larger cities with international airports became infected first and it has spread out from there.

- So, is it contagious? Yes, Highly! The greater your exposure, the greater the likelihood of you getting it.
- Does Social Distancing work? Yes, and the great one distances, the better.
- Does Washing one's hands work? Yes, and washing anytime you are out and about, bring stuff into your home, etc, etc, etc...
- Do Face Masks work? That depends highly on what you are using them for and what type you have and most importantly, are you wearing it correct. If you are sick or believe you are, Yes, please wear a face mask! If you are visiting areas of high likelihood of being in contact with people (stores, etc.), Yes, wear a face mask.
- Will a scarf or other mid to light weight cloth work to protect me? As above, it will depend on where you are going and the volume of people you will come in close contact with! Also, thread count matters! The moderate thread count with a moderate weave, like cloth diapers is a good example of the cloth that you should consider. It allows a reasonable transfer of air and a reasonable ability to trap contaminates. A High thread count with a tight weave would clearly catch more contamination, but would greatly limit your ability to breath, which last time I checked is important!

Be smart, be safe!!!

CDC is now recommending face coverings for all people in public in the US. They may reduce the spread of the virus by preventing it from shooting out so far when people breathe, and if we all wear them, there will hopefully be a "herd" impact where asymptomatic people are less able to run around spreading it as easily (thinking they are "well").
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/prevent-getting-sick/cloth-face-cover.html

Yes, if only people will wear them. I have a friend who has the full plastic face shield, which covers from the forehead to below her chin, then she still has the nose and mouth mask inside of that. Many times she just wears the regular mask.
 
I'm pleased to report that the new social distancing regulations are being followed pretty well by most Aussies and that we have been able, so far at least, to really squash that curve of new COVID-19 infections. Whether we will be able to keep it going in the medium to long term and with winter coming on, until that much hoped-for vaccine arrives however is anyone's guess!

Meanwhile I found a hilarious video of the Premier of Western Australia giving a press conference, outlining the different interpretations of social distancing amongst the States. Keep your eye on the deaf sign language interpreter as she struggles to maintain her professional composure!

[ame="https://youtu.be/e6v5Zx41y64"]https://youtu.be/e6v5Zx41y64[/ame]
 
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During the task force breif the mentioned they had more Info on CDC web site, and mentioned it's grim. They also said they were glad the press wasn't asking questions about death statistics.....
So I looked, it's a little unclear as is kind of mixed with influenza, even tho it's clearly under the coronavirus heading...... But the grim news seems to be a fatality rate of slightly over 8% !!
If I'm understanding it correctly.

Also I he president mentioned, that if you go on a ventilator your odds of living to come off it are not good....he also thanked the press for now asking for more details on that.
There was a question on how we were doing compared to what has been seen in Italy and Europe. They said we are on the same track and judt as grim. Italy has been having a 20% fatality...
So things are grim indeed
Please urge all to stay home, no walks, no grocery store runs if you can do with what you have.
 
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Also from Worldometer
"Italy: the real number of COVID-19 cases in the country could be 5,000,0000 (compared to the 119,827 confirmed ones) according to a study which polled people with symptoms who have not been tested, and up to 10,000,000 or even 20,0000,000 after taking into account asymptomatic cases, according to Carlo La Vecchia, a Professor of Medical Statistics and Epidemiology at the Statale di Milano University.

This number would still be insufficient to reach herd immunity, which would require 2/3 of the population (about 40,000,000 people in Italy) having contracted the virus [source].

The number of deaths could also be underestimated by 3/4 (in Italy as well as in other countries) [source], meaning that the real number of deaths in Italy could be around 60,000."
 
Talk about 1984, I hope some privacy advocates in the legislature put a stop to this kind of thinking!!!!!!!

Remember, we are regarded as the mindless, dirty masses that don’t even know how to vote!
Add to this, the World Health Organization, praised China’s ‘bold’ steps in how they contained this spread, but said, "the rest of the world isn’t ready for these steps"! Remember, check into what county’s controls the WHO!
 
During the task force breif the mentioned they had more Info on CDC web site, and mentioned it's grim. They also said they were glad the press wasn't asking questions about death statistics.....
So I looked, it's a little unclear as is kind of mixed with influenza, even tho it's clearly under the coronavirus heading...... But the grim news seems to be a fatality rate of slightly over 8% !!
If I'm understanding it correctly. ...
And then looking at this:

Also from Worldometer
"Italy: the real number of COVID-19 cases in the country could be 5,000,0000 (compared to the 119,827 confirmed ones) according to a study which polled people with symptoms who have not been tested, and up to 10,000,000 or even 20,0000,000 after taking into account asymptomatic cases, according to Carlo La Vecchia, a Professor of Medical Statistics and Epidemiology at the Statale di Milano University.

This number would still be insufficient to reach herd immunity, which would require 2/3 of the population (about 40,000,000 people in Italy) having contracted the virus [source].

The number of deaths could also be underestimated by 3/4 (in Italy as well as in other countries) [source], meaning that the real number of deaths in Italy could be around 60,000."
Putting these two sources together paints a slightly better outcome!
If I get sick, mildly, I won’t be going for testing! I will not stand in line with the panicked populous for hours to only be told, "sorry, we’re out of kits, please return tomorrow"! And I believe, taking into account, all asymptotic and mild cases, there are many, many more infected than the numbers show! This would also explain why California’s statistics don’t make sense! They should be extremely high, almost all flights from China do a stop in California! That fact may be the answer! This was being spread since the beginning of December, testing didn’t start until February! California may have already peaked!

My point? Many more mild cases than thought! This drives down the death rate significantly!
But, but, but! Statistics! What are your chances of being struck by lightning? Low!
Want to skew those odds? Go dance in a thunderstorm, flying a kite!
 
Well, I'm all caught up and thoroughly concerned.



Kentucky has been having multiple deaths every day now. One day we lost 11(don't remember if I posted that). Thankfully the past 4 days or so we have only had around 90-100 new cases each day. We still have fewer than a thousand cases as of yesterday. Kentucky is effectively closed. We are not supposed to travel. Period. And outsiders are only allowed in for a particular list of reasons, or must quarantine for 14 days and then follow our social distancing orders. We have a couple nursing home cases. An amazon distributer was shut down over a positive case and disinfected.



We picked up all of the feed order that had come in, but we are waiting on the next shipment for the rest of the order. Apparently 3 vans crammed with people pulled in to the feed shop asking for directions to Daniel Boone National Forest. Our property is not *in* the National Forest, but our forest is the same forest. All that exists between us and the National Forest are a couple small country roads and imaginary property lines. The people were from New York. Feed shop guy told them the forest is closed(the camp grounds and such are, but IDK how the actual forest could be closed, people live in there. :confused: ) Anyway, lately I have been concerned about inexperienced backwoods campers spreading into our forest and property.



There were loud drunken voices screaming obsceneties down by the main road the other night. Could hear them shouting and make out some words, mostly cussing. Sounded like more than 1 voice.



Sirens have become MUCH more common. Our poor fire department is being run RAGGED with these city folk setting campfires stupidly. The local department is home response, volunteer only, and has only 11 members. Eleven. Police seem way more present on the road. As it is still before most leaves, we can still see the road from our hill. It seems almost every time I look out to the road I see a cop cruise by. VERY unusual for Kentucky. Road Law and Order isn't such a thing here outside of the big cities(and even in them really).. "good enough for government" out here is said as "good enough for Kentucky driving!". "Kentucky motorcycles" are common(1 headlight), people drive ATVs and side by sides and tractors on the main roads cuz, well, why not?



None of our family members are coming here, tho our governer is decent enough to allow it, saying frequently "If you want to come here from another state and ride it out with your family that is alright, but quarantine yourself for 14 days and then follow social distancing. But we cannot be allowing 2 day trips." Our families remain stubborn in their city homes. :(


We have been staying busy with projects around here. I'm rearranging some furniture in the kitchen and upgrading the boa constrictor into a larger enclosure. She has outgrown her current enclosure and is starting to crush the plants in there. After that I think the plan is to focus on garden stuff. Going to start some seeds today, plant the onion starts, and put up a new electric net fence we bought to try. It is supposed to stop chickens so we are hoping we can use it as a garden perimeter. The orange construction fencing we used last year is destroyed by chickens, UV light, and a puppy who didn't like to be on the other side of the barrier from me. :rolleyes:



I hope you all are well.



Sorry for your loss Scott
 
I just went to the vet with a poop sample and it was funny. They were like "when you get there, ring the bell. Leave your sample at the door. Step back 6 feet. An associate will take the sample. You will wait in the car and we will inform you of the results." Felt like some sort of sketchy operation lol. Glad they are taking it seriously---if anyone had seen it, the would not have though poop was in that bag lol.
 
Like I been saying, six months ago, walk into a store with a mask on- they called the cops!
Now, walk into a store without a mask, they call the cops!
 
This is disturbing
“this is going to be the hardest and the saddest week of most Americans’ lives, quite frankly" ---quote from US Surgeon General
 
During the task force breif the mentioned they had more Info on CDC web site, and mentioned it's grim. They also said they were glad the press wasn't asking questions about death statistics.....
So I looked, it's a little unclear as is kind of mixed with influenza, even tho it's clearly under the coronavirus heading...... But the grim news seems to be a fatality rate of slightly over 8% !!
If I'm understanding it correctly. ...
And then looking at this:

Also from Worldometer
"Italy: the real number of COVID-19 cases in the country could be 5,000,0000 (compared to the 119,827 confirmed ones) according to a study which polled people with symptoms who have not been tested, and up to 10,000,000 or even 20,0000,000 after taking into account asymptomatic cases, according to Carlo La Vecchia, a Professor of Medical Statistics and Epidemiology at the Statale di Milano University.

This number would still be insufficient to reach herd immunity, which would require 2/3 of the population (about 40,000,000 people in Italy) having contracted the virus [source].

The number of deaths could also be underestimated by 3/4 (in Italy as well as in other countries) [source], meaning that the real number of deaths in Italy could be around 60,000."
Putting these two sources together paints a slightly better outcome!
If I get sick, mildly, I won’t be going for testing! I will not stand in line with the panicked populous for hours to only be told, "sorry, we’re out of kits, please return tomorrow"! And I believe, taking into account, all asymptotic and mild cases, there are many, many more infected than the numbers show! This would also explain why California’s statistics don’t make sense! They should be extremely high, almost all flights from China do a stop in California! That fact may be the answer! This was being spread since the beginning of December, testing didn’t start until February! California may have already peaked!

My point? Many more mild cases than thought! This drives down the death rate significantly!
But, but, but! Statistics! What are your chances of being struck by lightning? Low!
Want to skew those odds? Go dance in a thunderstorm, flying a kite!

Interesting analysis about California. Some areas quarantined early, such as San Francisco. Overall, the state tightened early. Early indications suggest the curve has flattened somewhat, but the death rates next 2 weeks will be telling.
 
I think the fatality rate will be 5% or above. The two close cousin viruses SARS, ( new virus is SARS cov 2,) was 10% ( during it they thought 3%) MERS was over 30%>

Top U.S. officials warn of ‘our Pearl Harbor,’ and some governors grow critical of the federal response.
Two of the Trump administration’s top health officials issued grave warnings to the American public Sunday, saying the next week — when the outbreak is expected to reach its peak in places like New York — will be “our Pearl Harbor.”

“The next week is going to be our Pearl Harbor moment,” said the United States surgeon general, Dr. Jerome M. Adams, on the news show “Meet the Press.” “It’s going to be our 9/11 moment. It’s going to be the hardest moment for many Americans in their entire lives.”
 

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