Young, hurt lovebird(pictures of hurt bird) Need help.

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A young lovebird(hatched 5december) got attacked by the cat at school, he is over the shock(I belive, the attack happend 6hours ago) and eats a little(given him fruit smoothie without stuff added in). He also ate a small piece of apple
He won't eat from a bowl(if I'm holding seeds he eats them, but not very much, he was still getting food from his mother but I have taken him home so that I can watch over him.
I'm waiting for antibiotics to avoid infection, he is active and really speaking up for himself.

His poop is kind off green:
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I'm wondering if there is anything else I can try to give him?

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(some of the "bald" spots are from his feathers kinda sticking together because of peroxide)
 

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Take him or her to an avian vet, immediately!
 
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Take him or her to an avian vet, immediately!

The problem is that I live in a place that dosen't have any..

Are there any local general vets?

For cows, horses, sheep, dogs, cats, but nothing smaller in a 2hour distance over a sea..
I called a guy that does dogs and cats and he said that if he is alive tomorrow he can do an xray, but he didn't really want to do anything..
 

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Hello, and welcome to the Parrot Forums family! I wish it could be under better circumstances, however.

If you wouldn't mind posting what region of the world you are in, our members might be able to point you in the direction of the best available certified avian vet... or even general vet if a CAV turns out to be unavailable.

The reason we are urging a veterinary visit is that scratches or bites from any mammal is potentially fatal to birds, even if the initial trauma isn't enough to do it. This is due to Gram negative bacteria, against which birds have no defense. So although the love bird might seem "okay" right now, the danger hasn't necessarily passed.
 
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Hello, and welcome to the Parrot Forums family! I wish it could be under better circumstances, however.

If you wouldn't mind posting what region of the world you are in, our members might be able to point you in the direction of the best available certified avian vet... or even general vet if a CAV turns out to be unavailable.

The reason we are urging a veterinary visit is that scratches or bites from any mammal is potentially fatal to birds, even if the initial trauma isn't enough to do it. This is due to Gram negative bacteria, against which birds have no defense. So although the love bird might seem "okay" right now, the danger hasn't necessarily passed.

I know.. Therefor I'm trying to do what I can, I live in Norway, but I know the closest vet that could help is 2hours+ a ferry ride away.. And even there it's not an avain vet..
 
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Sadly it seems he is quite an unlucky bird as his brothers/sisters has bitten of the end of one of the feathers on his wing, he has a strange leg(it kinda goes to the side, but he is using it) and then the stablecat got to him..

I hope he will make it, but the odds are against him..
 

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The Love Bird is owned by the School, or a Teacher, or is your Bird?

Clearly, the Stable Cat(s), needs to be kept away from the Birds or this will continue to happen.

The green poop would be normal with a bit of white and some liquid.

Have you been able to obtain the antibiotics yet. Get advice regarding how much from one of the Vets. Gram negative bacteria, as noted above is deadly and without early antibiotic care the bird is likely to die.

Clean (rise) the wound with warm fresh water and clean cloth. Do not rub, but dab with the warm wet cloth (Like cleaning a wound on a Human). Avoid wetting other areas of the bird. Keep the temperature where the Bird is high, between 40 and 42 degrees C (104 to 107 degrees F).

Continue to work with the Vet by phone.
 
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The Love Bird is owned by the School, or a Teacher, or is your Bird?

Clearly, the Stable Cat(s), needs to be kept away from the Birds or this will continue to happen.

The green poop would be normal with a bit of white and some liquid.

Have you been able to obtain the antibiotics yet. Get advice regarding how much from one of the Vets. Gram negative bacteria, as noted above is deadly and without early antibiotic care the bird is likely to die.

Clean (rise) the wound with warm fresh water and clean cloth. Do not rub, but dab with the warm wet cloth (Like cleaning a wound on a Human). Avoid wetting other areas of the bird. Keep the temperature where the Bird is high, between 40 and 42 degrees C (104 to 107 degrees F).

Continue to work with the Vet by phone.

It's the school that owns the bird, the cat is not allowed in the small animal stable, but some firstgraders(it's a high school) didn't close the door and the cat got in, since he can't fly and one of his legs are a little strange he was the one that couldn't get away fast enough, I have cleaned the wound and I'm about to call the vet again since he wanted to figure out what antibiotics, they don't know anything about birds here..

I have figured out how to get him to eat more, as long as he is sitting in the lining of my shirt he eats more(seems he has taken me as his mother or something?)
 

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Very likely that the Bird now sees you as a mother or caregiver. Care over-night will likely be needed as the antibiotics will need to be given ASAP and then again before sleep and likely first thing in the morning.

Feeding and warmth will be important also.

If the school is going t keep Parrots, the Stable door will need to be upgraded with a self-closing unit added.

Thank-you, for caring for this Love Bird.
 
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Very likely that the Bird now sees you as a mother or caregiver. Care over-night will likely be needed as the antibiotics will need to be given ASAP and then again before sleep and likely first thing in the morning.

Feeding and warmth will be important also.

If the school is going t keep Parrots, the Stable door will need to be upgraded with a self-closing unit added.

Thank-you, for caring for this Love Bird.

Yeah, he has figured that he wants to be underneath my shirt, if I lift up the shirt he starts tugging on it to get it back over and "screaming" will take that up with them.
 

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The shirt as a cover is likely providing much needed warmth and perceived protection from further attack. Thank-you for care for this Love Bird.
 

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Lets talk about Vet Care in areas in which highly specialized care is not available.

At School:
Near all Schools with any level of sports programs provided for its students will have at least one, commonly two (or more) individuals who have taken 'First Aid or Emergency Aid' training. They also have a School provided 'First /Emergency Aid Kit.' Many of the common supplies can be used to support the First /Emergency Aid of 'School owned Birds (Parrots) and other Animals. Commonly, the size supplied will be larger than needed, but many can be cut to support smaller needs. NOTE: This is common practice when those individuals are providing care for fingers or toes. Commonly, these individuals are caring and compassionate and will be very willing to help!

I will add to this Post a link to very large Avian First /Emergency Aid/Care kit that you can work with your in School staff to determine what they can add to their kit.

Insert: I Love Amazons - An On-Going Journey!
This is a very large Thread dedicated to the support of Amazons and Parrots in general. Within this very large Thread are Segments that provide information to provide for the Caring and Loving of Parrots. At the very end is a segment, currently on Page 14, which is Titled: Emergency First Aid Kit. As stated earlier, much of what is listed in this segment is likely found in your Schools Sports Program Emergency /First Aid Kit.

Vet Care:
The further from a Major City, the more generalized medical care becomes for Humans and Animals. In North America, we have Vets that are trained to care for Farm Animals and that also includes Birds commonly found on Farms. Farm Vets are trained to be problem solvers and also 'generalists' with a wealth of knowledge and solid medical support sources. Although, Avian Care is a speciality, the Farm Vet is an excellent source when help is needed. So kept working with your Generalist.

Regarding First Aid Training of School staff. Most Farm Vets are happy to provide support training to School staff for the care of at School animals. Ask, you may be surprised that both are interested.

Hope this helps!
 
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Thank you for the interest in this hapless bird! As others have posted, gram-negative bacteria may be most significant threat to his life. While an avian vet is preferable, if unavailable a traditional vet may be able to offer the proper antibiotics. There is some overlap with mammal and avian medicines.

This discussion from the Merck Veterinary manual may be of assistance; the first section assesses gram-negative bacteria: https://www.merckvetmanual.com/exot...als/pet-birds/bacterial-diseases-of-pet-birds

The dilemma is an antibiotic is traditionally specified after isolating the offending organism via lab tests. This may not be possible, so a vet will have to determine if prescribing a broad-spectrum course in the blind is ethically acceptable.
 
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Thank you everyone, I'm doing my best for him and hoping for the best outcome, but I'm not to hopefull.
He is kinda hanging his head now, but I think he is just sleepy
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Are you able to get him any antibiotics? Is a vet able to prescribe a broad-spectrum antibiotic effective against gram-negative bacteria prophylactically? (preventatively)
 
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Are you able to get him any antibiotics? Is a vet able to prescribe a broad-spectrum antibiotic effective against gram-negative bacteria prophylactically? (preventatively)

He has gotten Bactrim :)
Atleast from what I have read it covers gram negative, my guess it that he called some vet with more knowledge on birds
 
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Are you able to get him any antibiotics? Is a vet able to prescribe a broad-spectrum antibiotic effective against gram-negative bacteria prophylactically? (preventatively)

He has gotten Bactrim :)
Atleast from what I have read it covers gram negative, my guess it that he called some vet with more knowledge on birds

Hopefully the Bactrim will overwhelm any gram-negative bacteria and allow recovery. For now, keeping the bird warm and comfortable with supportive food will help. Trimethoprim sufamethoxazole (Bactrim) for Chickens and Ducks
 
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Are you able to get him any antibiotics? Is a vet able to prescribe a broad-spectrum antibiotic effective against gram-negative bacteria prophylactically? (preventatively)

He has gotten Bactrim :)
Atleast from what I have read it covers gram negative, my guess it that he called some vet with more knowledge on birds

Hopefully the Bactrim will overwhelm any gram-negative bacteria and allow recovery. For now, keeping the bird warm and comfortable with supportive food will help. Trimethoprim sufamethoxazole (Bactrim) for Chickens and Ducks

He is eating like a champ and reaaaally want to adventure 😂 He takes the antibiotics like he has never done anything else ❤️ We have lovebird food, but bought some budgie food since it seems some of the seeds are a little hard.
 

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